# Hot beef or hot hamburger? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 7, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037 "2012-09-07T20:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/1 "2012-09-07T20:49:20Z")
Which do you prefer? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/2 "2012-09-07T20:59:01Z")
If you’re talking about a Chicago beef, I’d probably rather have a hamburger. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/3 "2012-09-07T21:11:25Z")
Define “a hot beef”… ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/4 "2012-09-07T21:13:44Z")
Maybe a little visual would help: [Hot Beef](http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumble/3206299973/) [Hot Hamburger](http://www.flickr.com/photos/bob111/4987257432/) ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/5 "2012-09-07T21:17:06Z")
Salisbury Steak, which I guess leans closer to hot hamburger. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/6 "2012-09-07T21:17:09Z")
Oh dear god, neither. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/7 "2012-09-07T21:19:32Z")
When a sandwich needs a fork and knife, it kind of defeats the purpose of it being a sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/8 "2012-09-07T21:20:07Z")
If I had the time to sit down I’d do the hot beef but I only see them open faced arond here, never with bread on top and that’s how I’d prefer it (open faced I mean). ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/9 "2012-09-07T21:29:31Z")
Italian hot beef ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/10 "2012-09-07T21:43:32Z")
I went with the hot beef, as it’s closest to what I eat: an open-faced sandwich with non-hamburger beef. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/11 "2012-09-07T21:55:53Z")
Anything with beef, ground or otherwise, is okay with me! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/12 "2012-09-07T21:58:31Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Maybe a little visual would help: > > [Hot Beef](http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumble/3206299973/) > > [Hot Hamburger](http://www.flickr.com/photos/bob111/4987257432/) Based on those pictures I’d go with the beef. If I made them, the beef would be piled high with rare soft as butter roast beef on a bulky roll with the gravy on the side. The burger would be 6-8 ounces of charcoal grilled ground chuck on a bulky roll, without gravy. Then I’d eat them both. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/13 "2012-09-07T21:59:23Z")
> [@Purd\_Werfect](#): > > Salisbury Steak, which I guess leans closer to hot hamburger. Well, the Salisbury steak has gravy, though. Yeah, it’s made of ground beef, but I think that the gravy puts it closer to the hot beef. I’d rather have a Salisbury steak or a hamburger than a hot beef. I’d actually rather have roast beef and mashed potatoes and brown gravy. I’m really not very fond of sandwiches with gravy on them. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/14 "2012-09-07T22:07:45Z")
Based on the pictures… your “Hot Beef” is known as a “Beef Manhattan” in the Midwest. The “Hot Hamburger” I would assume someone ran out of roast beef for their Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/15 "2012-09-07T22:23:29Z")
I don’t really care for beef gravy. Neither. I’d prefer a regular Italian beef sandwich or a hamburger without the gravy, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/16 "2012-09-07T22:58:46Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > Based on the pictures… your “Hot Beef” is known as a “Beef Manhattan” in the Midwest. I’ve seen that as a ‘hot roast beef sandwich’. For that style of ‘sandwich’, I prefer the open-face hot turkey sandwich. (Loved 'em when I was a wee un.) ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/17 "2012-09-07T23:44:49Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > Based on the pictures… your “Hot Beef” is known as a “Beef Manhattan” in the Midwest. > > The “Hot Hamburger” I would assume someone ran out of roast beef for their Manhattan. If I ordered a Manhattan and got either of those I’d want a stiff drink! ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/18 "2012-09-08T00:28:49Z")
Ick to both. Too much gravy. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/19 "2012-09-08T00:38:13Z")
Neither presented that way. In a showdown between an Italian Beef and a goof burger…I’ll get back to you. But those things are abominations…gravy? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037/20 "2012-09-08T00:40:44Z")
Gravy is not supposed to be soup. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-beef-or-hot-hamburger/634037.md?page=2)