# Hot dogs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 14, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905 "2011-05-14T16:38:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/81 "2011-06-28T03:54:55Z")

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Hijack moved here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13964212#post13964212](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13964212#post13964212)

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/82 "2011-06-28T21:49:56Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> You’re a quick trip from the [Vienna Beef factory store](http://www.viennabeef.com/) where you can get natural casing dogs like the ones at most really good dog shacks and which are almost impossible to find in retail stores. Grab a lb. of these and see how they stack up against Nathan’s.

I almost included the factory store since I’ve heard they do great chardogs onsite as well, but the darned thing was closed both times I’ve tried to go, and I didn’t want to recommend something I couldn’t vouch for personally.

I’ll make it a point to get out that way during proper selling hours – you’re right, it’s a pretty short jog.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/83 "2011-06-29T04:09:01Z")

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[The Prez, a Chicago Boy, and a self professed Hot Dog afficianado, Mustard Man all the way, didn’t weigh in on how he liked our local quintessential Rudy’s dog, but he had one for the first time recently](http://www.toledoblade.com/Dan-Neman/2011/06/28/Top-Dog-was-right-Mustard-favorite-hot-dog-topping.html).

Me, it’s my favorite dog. It certainly isn’t a chef salad on a bun like the Chicago Dawg, but it has its own special greek providence and well, we top a dog with more meat like god intended… layers of meat, a bit of French’s, and some fresh chopped white onion and you got something. You can get the Rudy’s coney sauce mailorder, and recently I saw I can get their proprietary hot dogs fresh at the local Butcher… and that is important, it’s a steamed/boiled dog, soft, no skin, on a steamed bun. The dog has just the perfect soft give and spicing that set off the coney sauce. If you look at it from the inside, it has the perfect tender concentric layers that characterize good dog…

Like to see those at the Dope Dog Fest. Also like to see a Packo’s Hungarian Hot Dog take on a maxwell street Polish in a Dog off.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/84 "2011-06-29T04:36:31Z")

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Bring it on!

Actually, ketchup works better with a chilidog, though Texans will object to my addition of tomato to the mix. Our president ain’t really from around these, nor any other PARTICULAR, parts (Hawai’i, Indonesia, Kansas, Chicago, etc), so we need to cut him some slack, like when he kisses ugly babies.

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**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/85 "2011-06-29T04:40:14Z")

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Zweigle’s White. That is all.

(Some enterprising young kid from Rochester opened a stop up in PDX – nice chick and all, but $4.00 for a dishwater dog, no matter how good, they better give a room in back).

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/86 "2011-06-29T05:30:19Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> [The Prez, a Chicago Boy, and a self professed Hot Dog afficianado, Mustard Man all the way, didn’t weigh in on how he liked our local quintessential Rudy’s dog, but he had one for the first time recently](http://www.toledoblade.com/Dan-Neman/2011/06/28/Top-Dog-was-right-Mustard-favorite-hot-dog-topping.html).
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> Me, it’s my favorite dog. It certainly isn’t a chef salad on a bun like the Chicago Dawg, but it has its own special greek providence and well, we top a dog with more meat like god intended… layers of meat, a bit of French’s, and some fresh chopped white onion and you got something. You can get the Rudy’s coney sauce mailorder, and recently I saw I can get their proprietary hot dogs fresh at the local Butcher… and that is important, it’s a steamed/boiled dog, soft, no skin, on a steamed bun. The dog has just the perfect soft give and spicing that set off the coney sauce. If you look at it from the inside, it has the perfect tender concentric layers that characterize good dog..
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> Like to see those at the Dope Dog Fest. Also like to see a Packo’s Hungarian Hot Dog take on a maxwell street Polish in a Dog off.

Really, it’s more like an experience at Rudy’s. You have to take it as a whole, three chili dogs with everything (mustard and onion) and a bowl of chili with oyster crackers. I don’t know if canned chili and the frozen dogs without the proper bun and a bowl o chili would amount to the proper experience

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-dogs/581905/87 "2011-06-29T06:03:46Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Bring it on!
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> Actually, ketchup works better with a chilidog, though Texans will object to my addition of tomato to the mix. Our president ain’t really from around these, nor any other PARTICULAR, parts (Hawai’i, Indonesia, Kansas, Chicago, etc), so we need to cut him some slack, like when he kisses ugly babies.

Man, is that a dig at me or the president or both? Ketxhup on a greek dog is more of a sin than on any run of the mill dog, because of the subtle spices and flavors. It drags the dog down- mustard however, enhances and brightens the special coney sauce and heightens the exotic melange… mixes with the grease, highlights, and makes it meatier… add ketchup nand it’s too sweet by one degree… maybe you can get by with ketchup on a Texan dog that has no character or personality, but here we just sit you at the kiddie table.

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