# Hot, or not?  Honestly rate your looks

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 16, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432 "2013-08-16T17:15:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/81 "2013-08-17T13:05:41Z")

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I’m not sure but it’s anywhere from a 3 to a 7. I get slightly below the average amount of getting hitting on/asked out than I would expect, but it actually _decreases_ once they get to know me. So what little interest in girls I get has to come from my looks rather than my personality. Which isn’t to say I don’t have a good personality, it’s just not sexy.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/82 "2013-08-17T15:08:59Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Plus I’m just big all over - big hands, big feet, 5’8". So I can’t even be “cute” (read: petite)

Pssht, being petite is for the birds. I’m 5’8", curvy, have bigger hands than most dudes (hmm, I should try palming a basketball), and have some pretty decent muscle tone, so nobody is ever going to classify me as petite or adorable, and I like it that way.

> [@gracer](#):
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> To adhere to ridiculous beauty standards I’d also have to have a flat tummy (which I find freaky…

How is having a flat tummy freaky?

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/83 "2013-08-17T15:30:11Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Pssht, being petite is for the birds. I’m 5’8", curvy, have bigger hands than most dudes (hmm, I should try palming a basketball), and have some pretty decent muscle tone, so nobody is ever going to classify me as petite or adorable, and I like it that way.
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> How is having a flat tummy freaky?

Your picture in the Gallery is very attractive.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/84 "2013-08-17T15:38:45Z")

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Flattery. Thank you! But I was just saying I’m not “petite” by any definition I’ve heard of, and don’t have the height or build to be one of those tiny, adorable women, which is more than fine by me. Anyway, you’ve reminded me that I really need to update that photo. It’s old and I barely even recognize myself when I look at it.

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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/85 "2013-08-17T16:42:04Z")

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I’m pretty. I often get approached in grocery stores, stop lights, etc. Now that I’m older, I’m more the MILF type. I have a smokin’ bod for my age. At work, I am pencil skirts and button downs conservative, but really I am a tatted up freak. It can be fun to be noticed for what I look like, but it’s all superficial. I dont take any of it seriously. What I find attractive has little to do with a certain physical type and more to do with an indescribable energy. I have been swept off my feet by people, and friends will say they just don’t get it. Sounds stupidly cliche, but “hot” cannot be attributed to a specific set of physical attributes. Not for me, anyway.

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**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/86 "2013-08-17T19:05:05Z")

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I think it’s interesting that what a lot of people here are saying is being fat equates to being ugly. Wonder what NAAFA and other people of the like would have to say about that.

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**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/87 "2013-08-17T19:42:13Z")

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I gave myself a 7, I think that I rated an 8 when I was a bit younger.  
And FWIW, I’m in agreement with everyone on **Jragon**. You should get some counseling, you seem to have some some ‘issues’.

Dude, you’re not _ **that** _ bad lookin’ of a guy, IMHO. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/88 "2013-08-17T19:54:39Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> Your picture in the Gallery is very attractive.

I should never have started looking at the pictures in that gallery. I have my own mental images of what some people here look like, and none of them match at all. Now I’m all confused.

I was picturing \*\*MeanOldLady \*\*a lot more like [this](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ohtGYvV_Xd4/UNHflK4YcwI/AAAAAAAAAug/e7pd7LXdVTg/s1600/old-lady-giving-the-middle-finger.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/89 "2013-08-17T21:31:54Z")

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Male here. I consider myself better than average-looking, and still get approached, so I’ll give myself an 8. I’m obsessive about my appearance, skin, hair, and teeth, and have enough products to rival most women’s bathroom counters. I have a daily exercise regimen which, although a killer, allows me to maintain the muscle tone I had naturally when I was much younger.

I’m in my 50s now, have always looked younger than my age and, after my hair transplants, [which you can read about here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657548), can easily pass for someone in his early 40s. I do quite a bit of public speaking for pitches and client programs so it is critical for my business that I look my best. I also have the multiracial thing going which, in my case, helps, IMO.

I’ll think about exhibiting some false modesty after I’m dead.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/90 "2013-08-17T22:10:32Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> I was picturing \*\*MeanOldLady \*\*a lot more like [this](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ohtGYvV_Xd4/UNHflK4YcwI/AAAAAAAAAug/e7pd7LXdVTg/s1600/old-lady-giving-the-middle-finger.jpg).

LOL - funny! I think she’s pretty, nice smile, nice eyes. ( **MeanOldLady** of course, not that picture)

> [@April\_R](#):
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> My husband says I am an 8. I rate myself a 6…

If your hubby thinks that, then you are! Because who else counts, right?  
Me, I’m a little better than average, so 6.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/91 "2013-08-17T22:26:07Z")

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> [@echo7tango](#):
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> If your hubby thinks that, then you are! Because who else counts, right?

Her boyfriend? 😉

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/92 "2013-08-17T22:55:27Z")

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If I were to judge **Jragon** by the photo in this thread, I would think he’s a clever guy (geek but in a good way), popular, a hit with the ladies… What’s wrong with his skin?

ETA: I rate myself a 7.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/93 "2013-08-17T23:08:44Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> How is having a flat tummy freaky?

It isn’t, that’s why I said “I find”. I just don’t think it’s attractive and I don’t want to look like that. _I_ would be freaky if I had a six pack. Some people look natural with a six pack, but I wouldn’t. I think I would probably look as if I spent too much time being miserable at the gym and far too little time eating cake. 😃

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**Author:** ![Pyper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pyper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyper)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/94 "2013-08-18T01:07:37Z")

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I’d rate myself a 7, on the basis of being slender and well-built but having a bit of an odd face. My odd face is in the gallery.

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/95 "2013-08-18T01:31:24Z")

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What is this gallery of which some of you speak?

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/96 "2013-08-18T02:15:20Z")

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> [@Molotok](#):
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> What is this gallery of which some of you speak?

That’d be [this one](http://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/).

I’d say I’m a solid 5, though I wouldn’t be surprised to be rated anywhere from 4 to 6 by the general public.

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/97 "2013-08-18T02:50:52Z")

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Cheers for that, I sent a photo of me to the gallery. Let’s see what happens to my #7 ranking 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/98 "2013-08-18T03:28:03Z")

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I was extremely awkward- and goofy-looking in my teens. But in my 30s, I was told by more than one person that I looked like Harrison Ford. (A young Ford, not like he looks now.) I could sort of see it, but the resemblance went away. Now I think I’m just your average-looking middle-aged guy.

This propensity to look like a celebrity in certain age periods may be inherited. I swear toward the end of his life, my father was looking like Jack Lemmon in the latter’s later years.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/99 "2013-08-18T03:59:32Z")

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[According to this article in The Guardian, most of you are actually probably uglier than you think.](http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/23/hot-or-not-rate-our-looks)😃

Seriously though, I’m having trouble with the actual rating system. I get that 10 = Brad Pitt and 1 = Quasimodo, but what does a 5 look like? Is 5 like “normal looking attractive-ish guy” or is 5 like “guy who blends into the crowd who you would never notice”?

> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Pssht, being petite is for the birds. I’m 5’8", curvy, have bigger hands than most dudes

[So basically, this is you?](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110213005818/archer/images/f/f3/Lana.png)😃

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-or-not-honestly-rate-your-looks/666432/100 "2013-08-18T04:29:43Z")

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I was pretty universally considered to be a “10” from ages 12-28. But now I’m vastly overweight (200+) and usually exhausted, so where I fit on the scale depends upon how much the individual counts off for excess weight. The funny thing is, I _feel_ more attractive now than I did then.

So take heart, JRagon, you’re not the only one who sees him/herself strangely. LOL!

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