# Hotdogs, weiners, klobasas and the like: Ketchup or Mustard?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 18, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758 "2003-06-18T18:35:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/41 "2003-06-19T20:08:43Z")

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Am I really the first to mention that there was a Straight Dope column that addressed this topic?  
[Why There is no Ketchup on a Properly Made Hot Dog](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_095.html)

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/42 "2003-06-20T01:53:45Z")

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I like 'em plain.

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**Author:** ![Phelan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Phelan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phelan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/43 "2003-06-20T02:19:19Z")

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Because of another thread that brought this issue up recently, for the first time last weekend I tried a sausage on a bun without ketchup. Just mustard!! It was pretty good and I’ll try it again, but I will still use ketchup most of the time.

Sometimes hotdogs just need KETCHUP!!! That’s right I said it!!😃  
But ketchup goes great with grilled cheese sandwiches all the time.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/44 "2003-06-20T02:42:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Phelan \*  
> \*\*Because of another thread that brought this issue up recently, for the first time last weekend I tried a sausage on a bun without ketchup. Just mustard!! It was pretty good and I’ll try it again, but I will still use ketchup most of the time.
> 
> Sometimes hotdogs just need KETCHUP!!! That’s right I said it!!😃  
> But ketchup goes great with grilled cheese sandwiches all the time. \*\*

don’t worry **Phelan** , these heathens just don’t appreciate the sublime wonder that is ketchup.

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**Author:** ![Booker57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/45 "2003-06-20T03:13:08Z")

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Slight hijack

Why can you buy industerial sized bottles of that red stuff, but only small 12oz or less, of good mustard?

There is no ketchup in my house. And I like it that way.

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**Author:** ![Phelan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Phelan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phelan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/46 "2003-06-20T05:35:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 5-HT \*  
> \*\*don’t worry **Phelan** , these heathens just don’t appreciate the sublime wonder that is ketchup. \*\*

When will they learn **5-HT?** When?

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**Author:** ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/47 "2003-06-20T08:07:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lost4life \*  
> \*\*Oh for the love of…Will someone at least pretend they read my posts??? \*\*

Hey! I did and I laughed! And I wondered why the copycats weren’t giving credit…

-Tcat

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**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/48 "2003-06-20T10:10:37Z")

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Ketchup, Miracle Whip.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/49 "2003-06-20T14:37:47Z")

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> Originally posted by lost4life  
> Oh for the love of…Will someone at least pretend they read my posts???

**From lost4life**

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> Anyhoo, to quote the immortal words of Detective Harry Callaghan:
> 
> “God this stuff isn’t getting to me - the shootings, the knifings, the beatings. Old ladies being bashed in the head for their social security checks. Nah that doesn’t bother me. But you know what does bother me? You know what makes me really sick to my stomach? It’s watching you stuff your face with those hotdogs! Nobody - I mean nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog!”

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Howzzatt? 😃

Hot Dogs - Mustard and Onion.  
Brats - Mustard and Onion  
Kielbasa - Mustard. And Onion.  
Plain old sausage kind of breakfast sausage - two fried eggs, sunny side up, with a side of hasbrowns.  
Beef sausage - just like the kind ya get at the grocery store that says “beef sausage” - chili sauce and grape jelly melted together.

Oh quit looking at me like that!

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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/50 "2003-06-20T16:57:15Z")

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Soggy mystery dog at a high school football game (served of course, on a stale bun) - Both, along with anything else I can slop on there.

Good quality beef hotdog in natural casing, white hots, or sausages (except Italian)get mustard. I prefer Spicy brown.

I did not develop a taste for mustard until close to adulthood, however.

Too lazy to scroll back through and see with whome I am agreeing but ketchup is useful in some sauce recipes (mixed with cranberry jelly over meatballs, for example. Sounds gross but there are never leftovers)

A place I used to work would order deli platters from Costco for luncheons. The mustard that came with them was excellent, coarse and spicy. I have not yet ponied up the dough for membership just so I could get some but if you are a Costco member and enjoy mustard it’s worth trying.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/51 "2003-06-20T18:38:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lost4life \*  
> Oh for the love of…Will someone at least pretend they read my posts???

Credit given where credit is due. You even posted more of the dialogue.

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> \*Originally posted by Booker57 \*  
> … Why can you buy industerial sized bottles of that red stuff, but only small 12oz or less, of good mustard? …

Mustard has historically been more expensive to manufacture and is used in much smaller quantities.

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> \*Originally posted by SkyBum \*  
> Ketchup, Miracle Whip.
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> Nothing more, nothing less.

It’s folks like you what give ketchup a bad name!

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**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/52 "2003-06-20T18:57:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zenster \*  
> \*\*It’s folks like you what give ketchup a bad name! \*\*

Yeah, I’ve destroyed the good reputations of many condiments over the years but I feel no remorse. I’d do it again…

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/53 "2003-06-20T21:53:25Z")

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Miracle Whip has no “good reputation” to destroy in the first place.

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**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/54 "2003-06-20T22:42:56Z")

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Cite?

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**Author:** ![Ally424](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Ally424](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ally424)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/55 "2003-06-21T00:36:40Z")

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I happen to like ketchup on more things, so I’ll lean towards that, however I will not eat a sandwich without mustard & miracle whip.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/56 "2003-06-21T05:10:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Gaspode \*  
> **Using German heritage to justify anything won’t fly with me.  
> Germans put sugar on fresh tomatoes.**

Huh. My father’s grandparents were both Swedish (migrated to Minnesota) and they put sugar on their tomatoes. Dad was about thirty before he discovered he liked tomatoes after all.

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> \*\*Also, American mustard - like French’s - is an atrocity. That artificial yellow color and that artificial taste - bleh. Mustard should be coarse, dark brown and strong enough to clear the sinuses. I grind my own mustard. In an emergency, Dijon will do. \*\*

Now that I can agree with. If it’s schoolbus yellow, I don’t want it. I was at a reception a couple weeks ago and they had as a condiment, whole mustard seed soaked in wine and vinegar. The seeds were still round but soft enough you could squish them onto the cheese and coldcuts they had. Ambrosia. I wound up eating several crackers with just the mistard on them.

DD

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/57 "2003-06-21T16:05:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DesertDog \*  
> Huh. My father’s grandparents were both Swedish (migrated to Minnesota) and they put sugar on their tomatoes. Dad was about thirty before he discovered he liked tomatoes after all.

We prolly deported them for trying to impersonate Germans. 😃

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/58 "2003-06-21T20:04:35Z")

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I always liked the stoneground mustard in the little round jars. It’s great to take on camping trips, too.

Now I live in a country where the ketchup is even sweeter than in the US and people _put ketchup on their pizza_.

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**Author:** ![Jerrybear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8c91f0/32.png) [@Jerrybear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerrybear)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotdogs-weiners-klobasas-and-the-like-ketchup-or-mustard/182758/59 "2003-06-21T21:16:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dpfoody \*  
> \*\*:eek: This is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard! You have just insulted two of the greatest institutions in Chicago-the others being the Sox and pizza. A true hot dog has mustard, relish, onions, celery salt, a dill pickle wedge, tomato slices, and sport peppers. I don’t like peppers, but after having been yelled at for ordering one without them (by the proprietor of the establishment and by my father; cut me some slack, I was five) I content myself to pick them off or just suck it up and take it like a man.
> 
> Remember: there are only two ways to do anything - the right way and every other way.
> 
> If you ever say Chicago sucks again we’ll have a problem!:mad: \*\*

Well, maybe Chicago itself does not suck, but as a fan of the Greatest Team in NFL History (that would be the Green Bay Packers) I am obliged to say that:

“The Bears Still Suck! The Bears Still Suck! The Bears Still Suck!!!”

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