# Hotel California Redux - Another 1979-like Right Wing Shift? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674 "2023-10-16T21:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/141 "2023-10-23T20:17:48Z")
Plus, Republicans ignore the meaning of “per capita” like they ignore climate science. It’s why they think those voting maps that show the country bigly red mean something. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/142 "2023-10-24T07:30:00Z")
When the area on the map is proportional to electoral college votes, the 2020 election is not so red. [![](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/11/20/learning/2020electoralvotesmapLN/2020electoralvotesmapLN-superJumbo.png) ](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/11/20/learning/2020electoralvotesmapLN/2020electoralvotesmapLN-superJumbo.png) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/143 "2023-10-24T13:50:54Z")
Yeah. Plenty of smarter maps here: > **[Red states and blue states](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states)** > > Starting with the 2000 United States presidential election, the terms "red state" and "blue state" have referred to U.S. states whose voters vote predominantly for one party — the Republican Party in red states and the Democratic Party in blue states — in presidential and other statewide elections. By contrast, states where the vote fluctuates between the Democratic and Republican candidates are known as "swing states" or "purple states". Examining patterns within states reveals that the rever... My fave is always the county by county “purple america” maps. Which clearly show that what mattes is now big a city you live in/near, not which state you’re in. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/144 "2023-10-24T13:55:04Z")
I’m amused by the little blue corner of Nebraska. Dunno why, but it makes me smile. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/145 "2023-10-24T14:37:41Z")
It’s just proof that even in benighted Nebraska, there is a small enclave of people who went to college and actually learned something. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/146 "2023-10-24T19:05:52Z")
> [@Jumpbass](#): > > I’m amused by the little blue corner of Nebraska. I got curious, and found a map that showed the counties that went for Biden: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Nebraska_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg/525px-Nebraska_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg.png) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Nebraska_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg/525px-Nebraska_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg.png) I then looked at a geographical map of Nebraska (because I don’t know the state at all), and the election map corresponds to the cities of Lincoln and Omaha. Of course. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/147 "2023-10-24T21:28:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > My fave is always the county by county “purple america” maps. Which clearly show that what mattes is now big a city you live in/near, not which state you’re in. My favorite map is a combination of the purple map along with a 3d projection of population. So the country has large flat swaths of red with tall blue and purple towers. Really clearly demonstrates the urban rural divide ([link](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/CEWebViewer/viewer.html?3dWebScene=f034d08dbde649fe97ed2f3ec5bbf381)) it may take a while to load, but its worth it, pan zoom and rotate controls are on the lower left corner. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/148 "2023-10-24T21:42:03Z")
[![](https://worldmapper.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/USA_Politics_Election_2020.png) ](https://worldmapper.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/USA_Politics_Election_2020.png) > **[Cartographic Views of the 2020 US Presidential Election - Worldmapper](https://worldmapper.org/us-presidential-election-2020/)** > > The 2020 US presidential election did not only see a competition of two political opponents. It also was a competition... ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/149 "2023-10-24T22:27:36Z")
That’s the rural-urban divide in one neat picture. Most of the red counties literally have more cattle or pigs than voters. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/150 "2023-10-24T22:29:44Z")
That looks like a medical diagram of the circulatory system of some weird alien animal. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/151 "2023-10-24T22:33:38Z")
It’s the endocrine system of a xenomorph! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/152 "2023-10-24T22:39:05Z")
The problem is that under the Senate and the EC system, the empty dirt votes. And votes hard-red. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/153 "2023-10-26T02:08:13Z")
I use that very map (a cartogram) in my classes. Anyway… Brazil, no? Lula pulled a Grover Cleveland just a year ago at most, right? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/154 "2023-11-17T06:03:11Z")
> That is not what “sic” is used for at all. This person doesn’t know what a pun is; I am not at all surprised that he/she doesn’t know what (sic) means either. But you know people here are sooo dumb as to correct the botched lyrics when it’s “obviously” a “pun.” ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674/155 "2023-11-17T16:49:11Z")
Classy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-california-redux-another-1979-like-right-wing-shift/991674.md?page=7)