# Hotel Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 14, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468 "2012-08-14T14:31:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/41 "2012-08-27T16:56:39Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > Normally this type of thing doesn’t bother me, but WOW is that an awful theme song. I mean really bad and terrible and awful. Wow. ALL the music bothers me. It’s so loud it drowns out the dialogue. I tell my husband to turn down the volume but then we can’t hear what the hell people are saying. I would enjoy the show way more if the “background” music wasn’t so freakin’ loud. As soon as that young chef mentioned that he’d like to go to school and open his own bakery, I totally knew that Chef would offer to help him out. I hope they both come through with their promises. The entire show is obviously totally staged - we just watch it to have something to look at while eating dinner. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/42 "2012-08-28T14:41:26Z")
As I mentioned, Brian, the chef in last night’s show, was one of my best friends in HS. I heard from him that he was on the show last night, so figured whatever happened couldn’t be \*that \*bad – but I was a little nervous, knowing Ramsay’s reputation [I don’t watch his shows regularly] – and knowing that Brian got fired from there a few months ago. Turns out that about two months after the filming, the owner and GM came to him wanting to expand the menu again – and he was willing to be a “team player” about this, right? Wrong. Out he went. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/43 "2012-08-28T14:53:37Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Turns out that about two months after the filming, the owner and GM came to him wanting to expand the menu again – and he was willing to be a “team player” about this, right? Wrong. When an owner is as clueless as that guy was, it’d be quite surprising if they _didn’t_ go right back to what they were doing when they were failing. A few days of Gordon Ramsay yelling can’t change a tigers’ stripes. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/44 "2012-08-28T14:59:43Z")
Despite my wife’s pleas, I couldn’t bring myself to watch this show, due to a bit of PTSD.[I lived my own personal hotel hell a few years ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356483), and still travel quite extensively for work. Watching this show, I fear, just might leave me drooling in a wheelchair parked in front of a window softly talking to myself for the rest of my life. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/45 "2012-08-28T15:00:17Z")
Yeah, definitely. Once they turn the cameras off … [ETA: response to\*\* DCnDC\*\*.] ---
**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/46 "2012-08-28T15:23:09Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > As I mentioned, Brian, the chef in last night’s show, was one of my best friends in HS. I heard from him that he was on the show last night, so figured whatever happened couldn’t be \*that \*bad – but I was a little nervous, knowing Ramsay’s reputation [I don’t watch his shows regularly] – and knowing that Brian got fired from there a few months ago. > > Turns out that about two months after the filming, the owner and GM came to him wanting to expand the menu again – and he was willing to be a “team player” about this, right? Wrong. > > Out he went. Since you know him do you happen to know how legit the “health scare” was on last night’s episode. No offense to him or anything but the entire collapsing thing reeked of being staged, and in fact this entire series feels much more “fake” than Ramsay’s other shows. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/47 "2012-08-28T15:29:31Z")
Didn’t ask him. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/48 "2012-08-28T15:38:15Z")
Actually, the chef’s collapse seemed plausible to me. He was dealing with stress about the problems at the hotel and restaurant and on top of that had a world-famous chef and TV cameras in his kitchen. But the hotel owner was a rich idiot. How much money did he blow on making that elaborate, ridiculous hotel? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/49 "2012-08-28T16:22:32Z")
Well, thank goodness there was a fancy tub there, providing the opportunity for Ramsay to get buck on camera again. I really can’t believe these owners who return to their previous, unsuccessful form. Ego really makes people blind, sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/50 "2012-08-28T16:24:10Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > As I mentioned, Brian, the chef in last night’s show, was one of my best friends in HS. I heard from him that he was on the show last night, so figured whatever happened couldn’t be \*that \*bad – but I was a little nervous, knowing Ramsay’s reputation [I don’t watch his shows regularly] – and knowing that Brian got fired from there a few months ago. > > Turns out that about two months after the filming, the owner and GM came to him wanting to expand the menu again – and he was willing to be a “team player” about this, right? Wrong. > > Out he went. Good for him. He seemed like he was extremely unhappy there. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/51 "2012-08-28T17:22:08Z")
At least their [website](http://www.thekeating.com/) indicates that the room GR redecorated is still that way, but everything else is still bordello black and red. Pinifarina may design breathtaking cars, but just painting everything Ferrari red doesn’t translate for architechture. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/52 "2012-08-28T17:31:35Z")
Aren’t those fancy sports cars uncomfortable to sit in? I wouldn’t think that auto design skills translate well to hotel room design. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/53 "2012-08-28T18:11:16Z")
I’m thinking more and more that this show is scripted and that the owners participate as directed just to get all the “makeover” freebies. ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/54 "2012-08-29T05:52:53Z")
> [@Rubixcube](#): > > Since you know him do you happen to know how legit the “health scare” was on last night’s episode. No offense to him or anything but the entire collapsing thing reeked of being staged, and in fact this entire series feels much more “fake” than Ramsay’s other shows. Well, I can’t really see the producers daring to wind up the San Diego Fire Department. But, yea, the show is very over-produced, which is a shame because there _would_ be a decent show there, otherwise. His shows become more and more formulaic and over-produced. Kitchen Nightmares UK was fantastic. Kitchen Nightmares US was “Well, it’s still ok.” But this show is even worse. I’m amazed he hasn’t vetoed that brutal intro. What an embarrassment. I just watch the first half because I’m fascinated by denial, ego, and systems that just don’t work. After the owner has their “breakthrough” I just shut it off. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468/55 "2012-08-30T20:20:34Z")
He probably came up with that brutal intro, of course he’s not gonna veto it. It’s not really much worse than the horrible, increasingly bizarre intros to Hell’s Kitchen each season, and those seem to run twice as long (so they can fit in every last loser who ever appeared on the show). Red walls are a really bad idea. I know someone who has a room with red walls and it’s like very madness inducing if you’re in that room too long. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-hell/631468.md?page=2)