# Hotel of Heroes mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544 "2011-01-14T01:30:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/501 "2011-01-20T16:07:04Z")
Regarding **ushi** : > [@peekercpa](#): > > well we have inconsistencies about positions (within the same stinking post). This is a good enough reason for a vote, I suppose, especially on Day 1 > [@](#): > > we’ve got an overblown reaction to confrontation (if it even rose to that level). It was an overblown reaction, but are you saying that the reaction makes it more likely that he’s Scum? I don’t see the correlation there myself. > [@](#): > > we’ve got a vote switch based merely on a substitution - and to some extent if he would have just come out and said that his original vote was because he had a sore ass then he would look even worse. I still don’t see why this is an issue to people. It’s Day 1; it’s not like he had a real strong case to begin with. Day 1 votes are almost always based heavily on “gut feeling”. He had a “gut feeling” about the **Ed/Ben** role, based on what \*\*Ed \*\*had posted. It’s perfectly clear to me why he wouldn’t want to carry that “gut feeling” over to **Ben**. Personally, I think he would have looked better from a “Scum/Town” perspective if he said that his vote on \*\*Ed \*\*was because he had a sore ass…it would have made the original vote look all the worse, but it would have made the reasoning for the unvote crystal clear. Of course, if that wasn’t the reason for the vote in the first place, then it’s a moot point… > [@](#): > > and now no fracking vote - based on **maha** ’s most recent update. I see now that ushi has cast a vote for **Cookies** ; however, I’m bothered by his reasoning: > [@ushimitsudoki](#): > > **For reasons alphabetic** and one more reason explained later. _[bolding mine]_ It shows a ‘cavalier attitude’ that doesn’t sit well with me. > [@](#): > > so yeh, for Day 1 it’s better than a lot of cases. I don’t get the feeling that ushi is Scum, but I am not getting a “Town” vibe from him either. His play has certainly rubbed people the wrong way, for both “game” and “meta-game” reasons, so I can understand the votes in that respect. I suspect that it’s going to turn out to be a mislynch, but I’m not going to try to talk anyone out of their vote. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/502 "2011-01-20T16:08:46Z")
\*\*Vote Count: Idlethoughts(2): Suburban, Pleonast Peeker(1): ScubaBen ScubaBen(1): Chronos Chronos(1): Redskeezix Pleonast(1): Oredigger Ushimi(5): peeker, Cometothedarkside, Oneandonly, Chipacabra, Idle Cometothedarkside(3): Mentalguy, Astral, Ushimi Suburbanplankton(1): story Thesearemypants(1): Meeko Storyteller(1): Wolverine\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/503 "2011-01-20T16:11:22Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > On reread, I’ve something else that bothers me. > > First, we have the vote (post 331): > > Poor reason to vote. Then, an explanation (post 388) in response to **Ben** : > > Except, Idle’s vote was in post 331, before **peeker** ’s vote. (And **Idle** even notes that **peeker** references him.) While voting for no stated reason is bad enough, it looks like **Idle** is trying to spin his lack of voting to match up with someone else’s later vote. > > **unvote Suburban Plankton** > **vote Idle Thoughts** > for: > > 1. Voting without a stated reason. > 2. Trying to use someone else’s vote to retcon their own vote. I’ve already stated TWICE why I voted for **Ushimi** the first time. Stop skimming. [Read the last sentence of this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13372560&postcount=454) It was pretty obvious I was only trying to get \*\*Ushimi’\*\*s goat by voting for him after being such a hothead in the **Ed** debacle. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/504 "2011-01-20T16:23:12Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > well i think the only soul that meets this criteria is **idle**. and while i don’t discount the fact that he may indeed have several separate and distinct personalities i am not quite sure that i am ready to pluralize him. **Idle** is the only one who voted and subsequently unvoted, yes. And between that massive waffle and **Pleonast’s** case, he’s close to earning my vote. But then there’s also **Oredigger77** , who said this at #441, after Pleo’s initial post about Plankton but before the latter’s defense: > [@](#): > > I think we’ve got our first lead of the game. I’ll give scuba or suburban a chance to answer first but I think this is going to be about as good as Day one gets. Then followed up with this, after Plankton’s post (#461): > [@](#): > > Well, that response seems reasonable. So it’s our “first lead” and “about as good as Day one gets” (and by the way, references to it being Day One so hey, the cases don’t have to be that good, are number one on my list of things I unscientifically believe Scum say more often than Town), but then Plankton offers an explanation that, while entirely _possible_, is also exactly the explanation that any sensible Scum would offer. I ask again – if the response Plankton _did_ give completely satisfied you, what sort of response would _not_ have satisfied you? **Astral Rejection** does something similar in the space of two posts, but was noncommittal about the slip in the first place so his acceptance of Plankton’s explanation rings less false to me. Both **Idle** and **Digger** behaved in a way that I think appears to suggest that their initial enthusiasm for the slip was something less than entirely genuine. I myself am unsatisfied, and will keep half an eyeball on Plankton, but for now I am more suspicious of those two. More so of Digger. Why? Partly because at least Idle was up front with what he was doing. Digger with-held his vote (in spite of it being “as good as Day One gets”). But even more problematic for me is the fact that Oredigger has subsequently voted for Pleonast (a notorious lightning rod of a player, and, if Pleo will forgive me for saying it, a relatively easy target to get lynched) because Pleonast brought up the subject that Oredigger called our best lead so far. That hugely inconsistent and opportunistic act, coupled with evidently insincere “suspicion” of Plankton, means I am happy to be able to: **unvote Plankton** and **vote Oredigger77** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/505 "2011-01-20T16:28:45Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I don’t get the feeling that ushi is Scum, but I am not getting a “Town” vibe from him either. His play has certainly rubbed people the wrong way, for both “game” and “meta-game” reasons, so I can understand the votes in that respect. I suspect that it’s going to turn out to be a mislynch, but I’m not going to try to talk anyone out of their vote. I am. If you’re voting for **ushi** because you genuinely believe he is Scum (or, if he is Town, because you’re Scum who wants to pretend you genuinely believe he is Scum), then I encourage you to keep your vote where it is. It will be easier to analyze later. But if you’re voting for him because he’s pissed you off, because he’s questioned how we play, because he’s acted a bit unpleasant: please unvote. A vote like this is: (1) unlikely to produce a positive outcome; and (2) definitely not going to be easy to analyze on future Days. For my part, I am opposed to this lynch. I have a very difficult time believing that Scum **ushi** acts in the way he does. Maybe it’s a brilliant act and he’s counting on people thinking exactly that, but if it is, it’ll backfire eventually because he won’t be able to sustain it through endgame. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/506 "2011-01-20T16:30:17Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > My position hasn’t changed – I don’t have any good candidates to vote for. So instead of looking for suspicion “peaks” maybe I should look for suspicion “lows” and work by process of elimination. > > (Some minutes and mental editing later…) > > I have no read on anyone. I’ve got 17 lows and myself. Which is normal for me. All I _do_ have is the dust-up between ushimi and Ed, a distraction I’ve fallen for several times before. Plus I’m now in Ed’s shoes. I don’t think that fray is reason enough for me to vote for ushimi. > > I’ll reread this thread as time permits. So, does this mean you’re reconsidering your vote on peeker? > [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I missed that one; thanks for catching it **Idle**. **Peeker** cast a “me too” vote for **ushimi** , which I should and do find suspicious. > > In fact, it seems to me **Peeker** has just a bit more reason for my vote: First, he votes **ushimi** for the aforementioned posts in ushimi’s fray with **Ed** , and second Peek sounds like he’s trying to form a little red wagon. (Which is a far cry from a bandwagon.) > > It’s still Day 1, so that’s all I’ve got to go with for now. > **Unvote Idle Thoughts** > **Vote peekercpa** > > Aside to Idle: Scuba Steve is a different poster, here with me in the extreme sports section. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/507 "2011-01-20T16:35:58Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > I am. > > If you’re voting for **ushi** because you genuinely believe he is Scum (or, if he is Town, because you’re Scum who wants to pretend you genuinely believe he is Scum), then I encourage you to keep your vote where it is. It will be easier to analyze later. > > But if you’re voting for him because he’s pissed you off, because he’s questioned how we play, because he’s acted a bit unpleasant: please unvote. A vote like this is: (1) unlikely to produce a positive outcome; and (2) definitely not going to be easy to analyze on future Days. > > For my part, I am opposed to this lynch. I have a very difficult time believing that Scum **ushi** acts in the way he does. Maybe it’s a brilliant act and he’s counting on people thinking exactly that, but if it is, it’ll backfire eventually because he won’t be able to sustain it through endgame. I \*think \*that \*\*peeker \*\*is the only person who is voting for \*\*ushi \*\*because “he pissed him off”; the others are saying it’s because of his unvote of **Ben**. I don’t think the latter is worth a vote, but it’s a defensible position…and I know better than to try to talk \*\*peeker \*\*out of anything 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/508 "2011-01-20T16:38:18Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I \*think \*that \*\*peeker \*\*is the only person who is voting for \*\*ushi \*\*because “he pissed him off”; the others are saying it’s because of his unvote of **Ben**. The others are _saying that_. I’m just not sure that the “pissed me off” factor isn’t at play with more than one voter in this particular case. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/509 "2011-01-20T16:39:50Z")
**unvote storyteller0910** I need a little more time before coming back with a vote. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/510 "2011-01-20T16:47:00Z")
> [@Wolverine](#): > > Since Pleonast has taken his vote off of Suburban Plankton > **unvote Pleonast > vote storyteller0910** > I still think Plankton’s comment can be explained fully by the comments made in this thread from page 1 to his post. Any appeal to a scum board as being the source is entirely unsubstantiated and feels like digging for an excuse to lynch somebody. > > Sorry, but you did ask for it **story**. You are so confident in **Plankton** ’s truthfulness, that you’re going to vote for anyone voting for him? I don’t know if you’re really that gullible, or if you’re scum and know he’s being truthful, but something is off about your votes. Accepting their explanation as reasonable is one thing, but trusting them enough to base votes on it is quite another. > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I’ve already stated TWICE why I voted for **Ushimi** the first time. Stop skimming. > [Read the last sentence of this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13372560&postcount=454) > > It was pretty obvious I was only trying to get \*\*Ushimi’\*\*s goat by voting for him after being such a hothead in the **Ed** debacle. Ah, missed that. So you actually tried spinning your reasonless vote twice. **vote Idle Thoughts** for 1. Voting without a reason ([post 331](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13366216&postcount=331): “just because”). 2. Stealing someone else’s reason to justify that vote ([post 388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13370139&postcount=388): “the same reason **Peek** ”). 3. Spinning the reason some more ([post 454](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13372560&postcount=454) “wanted to poke a little harmless fun”). ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/511 "2011-01-20T16:48:26Z")
Actually, rereading **storyteller0910** ’s vote on **Oredigger77** made a lot of sense. I know I should add something new to continue the conversation (to keep it from being a me too vote), but I think **story** has the best lead so far and I’m following it. **Vote Oredigger77** ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/512 "2011-01-20T16:49:51Z")
I’m confused, **Story**. Both you and **Pleo** pointed out **Plankton** ’s usage of “odd pronouns”. Well, yeah, that is weird when one learns of **Scuba** ’s history of that. So I voted for **Plankton** on your explaining it. But then **Plankton** came in and explained it, and, what do you know, it makes sense to me! So I unvote and go back to the person I was previously voting for. How is any of that scummy behavior? :dubious: Try as I might, I can’t even REACH to find anything there scummy-like. What am I missing here? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/513 "2011-01-20T16:51:29Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > for > > 1. Voting without a reason ([post 331](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13366216&postcount=331): “just because”) I didn’t vote without a reason though..you’re wrong. I’m starting to find it hard to believe you could purposefully be wrong like this when I’ve already told you what my reason for voting for him was. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/514 "2011-01-20T16:52:56Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > You are so confident in **Plankton** ’s truthfulness, that you’re going to vote for anyone voting for him? > > I don’t know if you’re really that gullible, or if you’re scum and know he’s being truthful, but something is off about your votes. Accepting their explanation as reasonable is one thing, but trusting them enough to base votes on it is quite another. I read Plankton’s comment as it was intended, a joke that was an extension of the conversation near the beginning of the thread. I voted to keep pressure on anyone voting for Plankton\*\*\* solely based\*\*\* on that comment. I’m not 100% positive Plankton is town (maybe only 75%), but he did not deserve the votes without further arguments against him. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/515 "2011-01-20T16:57:05Z")
> [@Wolverine](#): > > I read Plankton’s comment as it was intended, a joke that was an extension of the conversation near the beginning of the thread. I voted to keep pressure on anyone voting for Plankton\*\*\* solely based\*\*\* on that comment. I’m not 100% positive Plankton is town (maybe only 75%), but he did not deserve the votes without further arguments against him. What do you think of the other votes that have been made toDay, and of those who have made the votes? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/516 "2011-01-20T17:01:32Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Ah, missed that. So you actually tried spinning your reasonless vote twice. > **vote Idle Thoughts** > for > > 1. Voting without a reason ([post 331](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13366216&postcount=331): “just because”). > 2. Stealing someone else’s reason to justify that vote ([post 388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13370139&postcount=388): “the same reason **Peek** ”). > 3. Spinning the reason some more ([post 454](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13372560&postcount=454) “wanted to poke a little harmless fun”). Just curious, but did you forget that you actually voted for \*\*Idle \*\*only 11 posts before this? > [@Pleonast](#): > > Except, Idle’s vote was in post 331, before **peeker** ’s vote. (And **Idle** even notes that **peeker** references him.) While voting for no stated reason is bad enough, it looks like **Idle** is trying to spin his lack of voting to match up with someone else’s later vote. > > **unvote Suburban Plankton** > **vote Idle Thoughts** > for: > > 1. Voting without a stated reason. > 2. Trying to use someone else’s vote to retcon their own vote. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/517 "2011-01-20T17:05:40Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Idle Thoughts\*\*[/color] > for > > 1. Voting without a reason ([post 331](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13366216&postcount=331): “just because”). > 2. Stealing someone else’s reason to justify that vote ([post 388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13370139&postcount=388): “the same reason **Peek** ”). > 3. Spinning the reason some more ([post 454](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13372560&postcount=454) “wanted to poke a little harmless fun”). I can play the link game, too. I vote for Ushimi in post 331 because he was being annoying and insulting for no good reason. The phrase “Methinks you doth protest too much” comes to mind. Here I thought it was obvious that [after his over-the-top, insulting tirade](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13366003&postcount=326) (which was post 326) why I’d vote for him a mere 7 posts later. But, I guess it WASN’T obvious after all that someone would vote for someone else on being a slightly annoying git, so I had to [put the cookies on the lower shelf](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13370139#post13370139) and explain my vote after **Scuba** called me out for voting for no reason [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13370116&postcount=386). If you read that post by me where I explain my vote (the one where you try to spin it as me using **Peeker** ’s reason), it clearly shows me saying it’s because he was being annoying as all get out. So how was this piggybacking off **peeker** ’s vote? I voted for **Ushimi** being annoying first. Before **Peeker**. You are deliberately making it in a way it wasn’t. And finally, I point you back to the reason, since you seemed to have missed it and you say I’m spinning again. If you’re not scum or third party in this game, I’ll be very surprised. I happen to think Ushimi is scum too, though, so I’ll not switch votes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/518 "2011-01-20T17:08:36Z")
\*\*Vote Count: Idlethoughts(2): Suburban, Pleonast Peeker(1): ScubaBen ScubaBen(1): Chronos Chronos(1): Redskeezix Pleonast(1): Oredigger Ushimi(5): peeker, Cometothedarkside, Oneandonly, Chipacabra, Idle Cometothedarkside(3): Mentalguy, Astral, Ushimi Oredigger(2): story, Wolverine Thesearemypants(1): Meeko\*\* Day One ends in 2 hours and 51 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/519 "2011-01-20T17:09:52Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > So, does this mean you’re reconsidering your vote on peeker? Yes I am. I’ve been reconsidering it since yesterday evening. But at present, it seems to me one weak vote is as good as another. The only thing I’m certain of is that voting for **ushimi** (claimed Batman, VT) isn’t going to make a difference. {Insert comment about VT claims here.} I think ushimi is getting an undeserved bandwagon for not-good reasons. If he flips Town and as claimed, I’m going to have to assess the lynch effort. Observation: If ushimi is claiming truly, we shouldn’t count on character names to indicate powers. I personally would have given Batman a power role of vigilante, detective, or combo. On the other hook, **Idle Thoughts** ’s opening claim of Joel Robinson, vanilla Town would be consistent between the character and the (non) power. Side observation: We have 18 players, and 10 have votes on them. I think that’s the highest fraction I’ve seen on Day 1 this close to Dusk. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/520 "2011-01-20T17:12:22Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > What do you think of the other votes that have been made toDay, and of those who have made the votes? I don’t think Idle Thoughts was backtracking, but I can see how somebody might think that. Pleonast has a weak case there, but legitimate. I’ve voted now 3 times so I’m clearly delusional. 😛 Ushimitsudoki knows he is voting mostly to save his butt, however, his point about Cookies not liking meta-gaming while engaging in it herself is helpful. Meeko makes a good observation about Pants, but I don’t think it is a strong enough for a Day 1 lynch. It seems more like _lynch the lurker_ after Pants disappeared for a day. I’m skipping over Oredigger’s vote and your vote in response. My attitude is clearly summed up in my vote for him. Which others have missed that you want to know? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544.md?page=27)