# Hotel of Heroes mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544 "2011-01-14T01:30:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/801 "2011-01-29T19:59:34Z")
Wow, three in one Night? One of these days, Mahaloth is going to run a game where everyone dies on Night 1 and he declares himself the winner. Oh, well. Go town! ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/802 "2011-01-29T20:09:36Z")
That sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/803 "2011-01-29T20:20:02Z")
As as I said yesterDay, it seems stronger than ever that some scum (like **Pleonast** ) was trying to save **Ushimi** there at the end of Day One. **Vote Ushimi.** ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/804 "2011-01-29T20:35:18Z")
I tried to kill Chipacabra last night, so barring a redirection to Wanderers or Mental Guy and someone else also trying to kill Chipacabra, his blood is on my hands. Sorry Chip. I also had to choose sides before posting to the thread Today, and I chose Town. So I’ll be over here looking for scum as a functional Vanilla to the best of my ability as long as I’m around. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/805 "2011-01-29T20:37:38Z")
Mahaloth, can I get a list of still-living players? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/806 "2011-01-29T20:40:03Z")
1. Wolverine 2. ushimitsudoki 3. thesearemyownpants 4. Specialed / Scuba\_Ben [del]5. chipacabra[/del] 5. suburbanplankton [del]7. mentalguy[/del] 6. Meeko 7. astralrejection [del]10. Oneandonlywanders[/del] 8. cometothedarksidewehavecookies 9. redskeezix 10. storyteller [del]14. oredigger[/del] 11. peekercpa [del]16. Pleonast[/del] 12. idlethoughts 13. Chronos Is this correct? I just did this from memory. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/807 "2011-01-29T20:40:36Z")
Alive: 1. Wolverine 2. ushimitsudoki 3. thesearemyownpants 4. ScubaBen 5. suburbanplankton 6. Meeko 7. astralrejection 8. cometothedarksidewehavecookies 9. redskeezix 10. storyteller 11. idlethoughts 12. Chronos Dead: **Oredigger- Fox Mulder – EIUGC(Vanilla) Peeker - Castiel - EIUGC(Vanilla)** **Pleonast – Satan – NDCE (Investigator)** **OneandOnly – Gandalf - EIUGC(Vanilla) Chipacabra – Buffy – EIUGC(Lover mason) Mentalguy – Xev Belringer – EIUGC(Vanilla)** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/808 "2011-01-29T20:41:04Z")
Forgot Peeker 1. Wolverine 2. ushimitsudoki 3. thesearemyownpants 4. Specialed / Scuba\_Ben [del]5. chipacabra[/del] 5. suburbanplankton [del]7. mentalguy[/del] 6. Meeko 7. astralrejection [del]10. Oneandonlywanders[/del] 8. cometothedarksidewehavecookies 9. redskeezix 10. storyteller [del]14. oredigger[/del] [del]15. peekercpa[/del] [del]16. Pleonast[/del] 11. idlethoughts 12. Chronos ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/809 "2011-01-29T20:42:17Z")
Thank you. I decided to not be lazy, but you were a lot quicker than I expected. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/810 "2011-01-29T20:43:42Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I tried to kill Chipacabra last night, so barring a redirection to Wanderers or Mental Guy and someone else also trying to kill Chipacabra, his blood is on my hands. Sorry Chip. > > I also had to choose sides before posting to the thread Today, and I chose Town. So I’ll be over here looking for scum as a functional Vanilla to the best of my ability as long as I’m around. Were you forced to kill last Night, or was that your choice? Were you told you needed to choose sides before or after you submitted your action? ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/811 "2011-01-29T20:50:20Z")
I don’t even know where to start. Right now I’ll just lay it down and say **ushimi** is my prime suspect due to the 1st day voting. **vote ushimi** We have 3 people who have died. I am prepared to take **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** at face value for the moment, but what would account for the other killing? ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/812 "2011-01-29T20:51:32Z")
Also would there be any benefit in the other mason declaring? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/813 "2011-01-29T21:09:00Z")
**Vote Storyteller** Your defense of Pleonast. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/814 "2011-01-29T21:17:59Z")
I was not forced to kill last Night. I submitted my orders at 1:23 am Pacific on 1/28. I was told I needed to choose sides at 7:54am Pacific on 1/29, an hour and 6 minutes prior to [Mahaloth’s opening death reveal of the Morning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13408165&postcount=787). At that time I was told that “a town player had died in the Night”, apparently in order to make a more informed choice. But as I was asleep until about 12:15pm Pacific, I saw that there were actually 3 dead Townies before making my choice. I chose Town because a) I said I would b) I feel I owe the Town my allegiance for killing one of the Town Masons c) with 3 killed in one night, everyone loves the underdog. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/815 "2011-01-29T21:28:01Z")
> [@These are my own pants](#): > > Also would there be any benefit in\*\* the other mason\*\* declaring? _[bolding mine]_ We don’t know that there were only 2 Masons to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/816 "2011-01-29T21:35:57Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I was not forced to kill last Night. I submitted my orders at 1:23 am Pacific on 1/28. I was told I needed to choose sides at 7:54am Pacific on 1/29, an hour and 6 minutes prior to [Mahaloth’s opening death reveal of the Morning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13408165&postcount=787). At that time I was told that “a town player had died in the Night”, apparently in order to make a more informed choice. > > But as I was asleep until about 12:15pm Pacific, I saw that there were actually 3 dead Townies before making my choice. I chose Town because a) I said I would b) I feel I owe the Town my allegiance for killing one of the Town Masons c) with 3 killed in one night, everyone loves the underdog. Why did you decide to use your one-time kill last Night? Yesterday you said > [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Why didn’t I kill last Night? > > Let’s see… > > - I don’t know what side I’m on. > - A kill can be kinda handy to try and use towards a win condition (that I don’t have yet). > - I have little to no idea what side anyone else is on, it being early in the game and all. The first 2 points would seem to have still applied last Night. Were you that certain that \*\*Chip \*\*was Scum? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/817 "2011-01-29T21:36:55Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Wait, _what?_ > > Crap, somehow I thought we had until Saturday. > > Ugh. > > So are we really going to lynch **ushi** here? People are really believing that his behavior so far is consistent with Scum? \*\* I begin to wonder if Pleonast, Story, and Ushi aren’t all three together here. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/818 "2011-01-29T21:42:54Z")
I was suspicious of Chip, and had Pleo not behaved as he did yesterday, my vote would have stayed on Chip. I thought there was a decent chance that I’d be killed sooner than later and should use the kill before losing it. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/819 "2011-01-29T21:51:20Z")
OK, so: **1.** @Meeko - I didn’t defend Pleonast. I attacked the decision to lynch him, which I still view as poor play that wound up having a good result. **2.** I still think **ushimi** is more likely to be Town than Scum, based on his Day One behavior, but the fact that said behavior has cooled down almost entirely since then is of interest. **3.** Buffy’s partner (it’s Angel, right? It’s gotta be Angel) should claim immediately, if not sooner. I am not Angel, nor Buffy’s partner. **4.** Once Angel has claimed, our alignment Detective (I think we probably have one) should give careful thought to claiming. If (s)he has reads on two players who are: (1) still alive; and (2) not Masons, (s)he should probably claim. **5.** I wish to claim. My name is **Albus Dumbledore** , member of the Order of the Phoenix and all around awesome guy. Mahaloth did not specify, but since I prefer the Richard Harris version of Professor D I am assuming I’m that one. I am a Jack of All Trades. I had four powers to start the game, each one-shot only. One of them was to Track. On Night One I Tracked Pleonast and saw him act on Cookies. I was terribly excited. When Pleo began to get a bit of pressure, I held quiet and hoped I could supply useful information about his potential truth or falsity if he eventually claimed. As it turned out, my information was utterly useless. Last Night I did nothing. I have three powers remaining. I’ll reveal what they are if there’s a compelling reason, but they’re not going to set anyone’s world on fire. So. There it is. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/820 "2011-01-29T21:52:41Z")
Oh, and I really REALLY am having a hard time believing that **Cookies** chose to be Town. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544.md?page=42)