# Hotel of Heroes mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544 "2011-01-14T01:30:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/81 "2011-01-14T21:02:23Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Man I miss Haggle. No Haggle during a Mafia game. It should be a rule. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/82 "2011-01-14T21:02:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, so first game-related thought: > SNIPPED First game-related response: CRAP. Tell me Chronos isn’t going to use his ““program”” again. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/83 "2011-01-14T21:04:35Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > First game-related response: > > CRAP. Tell me Chronos isn’t going to use his ““program”” again. OK Chronos isn’t going to use his ““program”” again. Does that make you feel better? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/84 "2011-01-14T21:05:21Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > OK > > Chronos isn’t going to use his ““program”” again. > > Does that make you feel better? No. But it did actually, literally make me LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/85 "2011-01-14T21:11:39Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > No. > > But it did actually, literally make me LOL. Thanks, I’ll be here all week. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/86 "2011-01-14T21:12:45Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > So you don’t want to use “Ey”, “em”, and “Eir”? I’m not playing yet. So e doesn’t have to worry for now about my use of Spivak pronouns. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/87 "2011-01-14T21:22:42Z")
I will almost certainly use my vote-analysis program, if I stay alive long enough for the results to be meaningful. The question is just one of how much weight I’ll put on the output, which will almost certainly be less than previously, following **Drain Bead** and **Inner Stickler** ’s successful fooling of it in LotR. But then, all Scum-finding techniques are fallible, so the fact that it has been fooled does not mean that it should be simply ignored. It’s just one data point among many. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/88 "2011-01-14T21:36:31Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I will almost certainly use my vote-analysis program, if I stay alive long enough for the results to be meaningful. The question is just one of how much weight I’ll put on the output, which will almost certainly be less than previously, following **Drain Bead** and **Inner Stickler** ’s successful fooling of it in LotR. But then, all Scum-finding techniques are fallible, so the fact that it has been fooled does not mean that it should be simply ignored. It’s just one data point among many. But, I thought the program was dead and 6 feet under BEFORE LOTR. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/89 "2011-01-14T21:46:46Z")
> [@](#): > > But, I thought the program was dead and 6 feet under BEFORE LOTR. IIRC, its track record is something like three games where it gave really good results (including one where I was Scum and was actively trying to fool it), two games where it gave indecisive but not-incorrect results, and one game (LotR) where it gave clear but wrong results. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/90 "2011-01-14T22:10:31Z")
Confirmation. Confirminay-ay-tion. Is making us wait. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/91 "2011-01-14T22:25:56Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > He’ll have to race idle to claim though. what’s the current line on the pari mutual board? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/92 "2011-01-14T22:28:28Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’m Spartacus in my best tony curtis voice. no, i am spartacus. at least i don’t have that chin thingy going on that looks like to be akin to shaving your butt cheeks. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/93 "2011-01-14T22:30:34Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > I’ve got my role, but don’t have time to play until Monday. rut roh. my money was you. you bastard. now you have given **idle** a 48 hour head start. mf, now you cost **mensa** his house. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/94 "2011-01-14T22:36:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, so first game-related thought: Given the color, I think that it’s likely that we’re playing a power-role heavy game, here. With that in mind, I think it’s probably safe to say that we’re likely to have a full stable of the standard roles, like Detective, Doctor, Town Roleblocker, Vig, and probably a powered Scum team (probably a Godfather, Scum Investigator, and Scum Roleblocker, at least). I think I have a bad habit of leaving assumptions tacit, so let me just say up front that, pending evidence to the contrary, I will be assuming that we have many different powers. yeeps and peeps. because of the color you are going to make an assumption as to game composition being lots of powers? and frack the only example of a potential player is “fancypants”. odd observation early on. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/95 "2011-01-14T22:39:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > IIRC, its track record is something like three games where it gave really good results (including one where I was Scum and was actively trying to fool it), two games where it gave indecisive but not-incorrect results, and one game (LotR) where it gave clear but wrong results. sounds better than listening to **ed**. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/96 "2011-01-14T22:40:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > IIRC, its track record is something like three games where it gave really good results (including one where I was Scum and was actively trying to fool it), two games where it gave indecisive but not-incorrect results, and one game (LotR) where it gave clear but wrong results. (including one where I was Scum and was actively trying to fool it) Where is the motivation to say this, now, coming from, **Chronos**? ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/97 "2011-01-14T23:22:00Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and to get one of the obligatory administrative functions out of the way before we are well and truly kicked off. > > can **sushi** and **pants** confirm whether they are in possession of penis or merely envious of the lack thereof? > > pronouns are important. As Kenneth Williams said, I am male and I can prove it! ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/98 "2011-01-14T23:27:40Z")
I’m not conifrming or denying anything, but the person who may’ve inadverently had their PMs disabled has activated them now. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/99 "2011-01-14T23:31:10Z")
Classic **these are my own pants!** 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/100 "2011-01-14T23:34:51Z")
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