# Hotel of Heroes mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544 "2011-01-14T01:30:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1341 "2011-02-16T23:39:49Z")

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I hate these.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1342 "2011-02-16T23:46:36Z")

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Quiet, please. An announcement is forthcoming.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1343 "2011-02-16T23:47:56Z")

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HATE

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1344 "2011-02-16T23:48:55Z")

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“Boy, you folks like waiting to last moment, don’t you? Well, I like that. Keeps things fun. Wolverine, eh? Gee, with a name like that, you’d have to assume he’s a hero. Right, bubs?” the voice said, almost sounding awake this time.

“Gosh, I just love Pepsi, don’t you? Oh, not that ‘sugar drink’ you morons drink all the time. I mean that little boy from Rondua….that boy that was aborted by that girl and now lives in a fantasy world collecting Bones of the Moon. You know him, right? No? You haven’t read Bones of the Moon? Shame on you! Shame on all of you! Go out right now and read that amazing book! And you call yourself heroes!” he exclaimed.

“Wolverine, it’s time to go. I think Pepsi is just the right thing to take care of someone like you. His innocence is nothing you could understand.”

[Wolverine must die!!!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clfaB52-9RI)

\*\*Wolverine is dead. He was Alvin “Axe Boy” Williams from Bones of the Moon. He was a member of the NDCE. He had no special powers beyond his ability to kill. He was vanilla scum. \*\*

It is now Night. Night will be brief, I expect.

Watch this thread for further updates. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1345 "2011-02-16T23:49:24Z")

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YES!!!

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1346 "2011-02-16T23:56:02Z")

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That is such a relief.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1347 "2011-02-17T00:11:39Z")

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Told ya 🙂  
I’m gonna go get drunk now.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1348 "2011-02-17T00:15:19Z")

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**I had fun, but does it get any easier on your blood pressure the more games you play? 🙂 Take care y’all and go NDCE! See everyone real soon.**

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1349 "2011-02-17T00:35:08Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> **I had fun, but does it get any easier on your blood pressure the more games you play? 🙂 Take care y’all and go NDCE! See everyone real soon.**

No. I saw that Mahaloth had posted the reveal, and I was afraid to look. 😃

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1350 "2011-02-17T00:37:18Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> **I had fun, but does it get any easier on your blood pressure the more games you play? 🙂 Take care y’all and go NDCE! See everyone real soon.**

From The Grave

No. I was the most paranoid this game, than ever before.

Much to Ed’s chagrin.

/FTG

Then again, this was first time being a doc.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1351 "2011-02-17T01:05:11Z")

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This has been by far the most bizarre game I’ve played in a long time. And that’s coming from someone who played in Malazan.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1352 "2011-02-17T03:11:21Z")

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Well, I’m back.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1353 "2011-02-17T03:25:54Z")

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Welcome!

Drink?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1354 "2011-02-17T13:37:59Z")

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“Rise. Discuss. Kill. This has been my greatest experiment, folks. I am so happy with how it has turned out. I’d let you all live if it was up to me. Well, it is, but I’m still gonna have you pick who dies next. Goodness, what if only one of you makes it out of this. I’d love that sooooo much.”

Wow, he’s happy. That actually scares me. I mean….this is weird. Three players.

“Yeah, seriously. Oh, yeah, someone died at Night. It looked like this.”

[Go Riddick! It’s your birthday! Go Riddick!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RinjI461pNU&feature=related)

Wow. That is beyond horrible.

**Cookies is dead. She was Richard B. Riddick from Pitch Black. She was a member of the EIUGC. She had a one-off Night-Kill.**

It’s Day 8. Yeah, 8. This game is NOT over, folks.

You get until 11 AM tomorrow, February 18. Eastern time.

Go for it.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1355 "2011-02-17T14:56:45Z")

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Hmmmmm…lo let’s see now…

Astral \*could \*still be the last Scum. But only if he has a hyper-inflated flair for the dramatic, such that he decided to bus \*\*Wolverine \*\*Yesterday solely to set up this final Day so that he and I could kill \*\*Chronos \*\*and he could end up as the ‘last man standing’.

Or, \*\*Astral \*\*\*could \*be a 3rd Party of some sort, who has a one-time killing power, and who has been able to fly under the radar just so that he could reach this point, where he can get me to help him off **Chronos** , and then he can kill me Tonight and win…and the theory that this game is the same in setup as Harry Potter was wrong after all.

And if either of those scenarios is true, I’ll be leading the standing ovation that **Astral** will clearly deserve.  
**vote Chronos**

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1356 "2011-02-17T15:54:29Z")

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Based on yesterday, can I truly vote anywhere else?

**Vote Chronos.**

Yes, scummy SP might have split the difference with Wolverine yesterday in the hopes that one of them makes it to today. But they could have won yesterday if they had both hopped on Chronos, and they know that. I’m the vote they needed, and I was more than willing to hop on a Chronos lynch. Scummy SP would have switched the second I voiced my doubts about Chronos, Wolverine could have followed, and I would have ended the game.

The simplest explanation is that Chronos must die.

P.S. Only 24 hours? That pretty much guarantees no discussion. I know I won’t have time to actually analyze the players, and Chronos won’t have time to mount any defense.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1357 "2011-02-17T16:07:54Z")

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Well, there’s not really much to analyze, is there?

If you’re Scum, then the game would have ended Yesterday.

If I’m Scum, then I wouldn’t have suddenly switched from **Chronos** to \*\*Wolverine \*\*Yesterday, and then passed up the opportunity to switch back when you voiced suspicion of **Chronos**.

If \*\*Chronos \*\*is Scum, everything that happened Yesterday makes perfect sense.  
I’d be happy to discuss it more, but I can’t imagine anything that could be said that would make me change my vote at this point. So \*\*Chronos \*\*has no choice but to vote for me. And that pretty much leaves it up to you.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1358 "2011-02-17T16:31:05Z")

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I guess you’re right. I don’t have any plans of switching my vote, so I guess the day could end now.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1359 "2011-02-17T17:48:33Z")

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Well, at least I know who the last Scum is, but that’s small consolation if I can’t get **Astral** to believe me. If **Astral** were the last Scum, then he could have switched to **Suburban** yesterDay for the win. Since he did not do so, I’m now 100% convinced that **Suburban** is the last Scum.

**Vote Suburban Plankton**

Now, as for my defense: I see three prongs to the case against me. First, we have that [Suburban was suspicious of me in the past](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13466807&postcount=1293). This isn’t actually a bad case. I mean if it _were_ a case, it would be a bad one, but it isn’t even a case at all. If he had been suspicious of me in the past, and if that were so significant, why didn’t he express any suspicion of me whatsoever on the previous Day? For that matter, looking back, it also doesn’t look like he had any suspicion of **Wolverine** before that, either: I think he figured that the most inconspicuous move he could make at that point was to express suspicion of two people, one Scum and one Town, and he figured that I was the most convenient Townie to suspect.

The second prong, so far as I can tell, is that I voted early yesterDay, which was interpreted as a Scum trying to control the tiebreaker. Well, yes, of course a Scum would benefit from controlling the tiebreaker. But just as obviously, a Townie would benefit from controlling the tiebreaker, too. The real question isn’t why did I vote early; it’s why everyone else _didn’t_.

And the third prong is that if **Suburban** were the last Scum, he could have switched to me for the win. Except, he couldn’t have. Even if he knew he could have swayed **Astral** ’s vote, we were in a five-person game yesterDay, not a three-person game. In that scenario, he would have _also_ needed to sway **Cookies** , and I can’t see any indication that she was willing to jump. In fact, the one person she expressed suspicion of, other than **Wolverine** , that day was… [**Suburban** himself.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13466940&postcount=1296) So scummy **Suburban** did not, in fact, have the opportunity to steal the win yesterDay.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/1360 "2011-02-17T17:52:15Z")

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\*\*Vote Count:

Chronos(2): Suburban, Astral

Suburban(1): Chronos\*\*

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