# Hotel of Heroes mafia

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544 "2011-01-14T01:30:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-of-heroes-mafia/567544/755 "2011-01-27T17:51:02Z")

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Huh, I guess the Day is a little longer than I thought… Somehow I thought it was noon Eastern.

Quoth **storyteller** :

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> So Pleonast claims a power role, and as a result gets more votes? Independent of any other arguments against him, can one of the late voters for Pleonast explain why a partial claim is, in and of itself, Scummy?

If he had said that he was Sherlock Holmes, detective (or I guess that guy from _Inception_, given that his power supposedly works through dreams), and then posted his role PM, and then said what he said about **Cookies** , then I probably wouldn’t have voted for him. But a half-assed claim like he made? A Townie has no good reason to hold back information like that. He’s bound to die very soon (even if not lynched, Scum would want to kill him ASAP), and a Townie should never want to take secrets to the grave. A Scum, however, has plenty of reason to make a half-claim like that: He might not have fully thought out his fake PM yet, he might be afraid that his fake PM will have inconsistencies in it, he might want to be able to change his story in reaction to the developing situation, he might be building in insurance against a counter-claim (like, say, if the real Detective counterclaims, he might say he’s some other sort of role and that was just a one-off).

Now, of course, it _is_ possible that a genuinely Town **Pleonast** is just being eccentric and is just holding back information for no good reason. But first of all, I’ve never liked the argument of “Oh, that’s just so-and-so being so-and-so, let’s give him a pass”. And second, if he’s being so eccentric that he’s trying to take information to the grave, is he even, practically speaking, a power role at all? Is he even going to bother telling us his next investigation result? A detective who doesn’t share is effectively no detective at all.

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