# Hottest of the televison geek girls.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 28, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272 "2009-11-28T21:58:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/101 "2009-12-03T14:47:03Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Olivia Munn does have the geek cred, and upping said cred is that she’s now shtupping Captain Kirk. Oh yeah.

Is that really geek cred, though? Original Recipe Kirk fired torpedoes at his fair share of bimbos.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/102 "2009-12-03T14:49:27Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> So who wants to do a hottest of geek boys?

My wife swears I’d switch teams in a heartbeat for Alton. She’s probably right.

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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/103 "2009-12-03T16:36:07Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Pistols at dawn, sir, pistols at dawn. Kirsten Vangsness has got it going on. Big time, tall tower, full power.
> 
> My sentiments exactly! Knowing that Pauley actually knows stuff (and is a humanitarian too) only ratchets up the hotness factor big time. Jewel Staite is nice and all, but all she seems to know about in her personal life (via her Twitter) is food. Her entire life is eating in restaurants. Boring!
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> Olivia Munn does have the geek cred, and upping said cred is that she’s now shtupping Captain Kirk. Oh yeah.

I knew I always liked you \*\*tumbleddown \*\*- even if this is my first time reading something you posted. 😉  
But I admit, I don’t get the Munn/Kirk reference.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/104 "2009-12-03T17:17:22Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The question is essentially “If these were real people, which one would be hotter?” Not only only do the actresses not act like the characters in real life, they often don’t dress like them, and how you dress is quite important to how hot you are. For example, I seriously doubt you’d say [this pic](http://www.weblo.com/asset_images/large/Blond_pauley_perrette_Pau_489cbc39e82aa.jpg) is of Abby Sciuto.
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> This is also the reason why the Hoshi pic is cheating–the character doesn’t dress like that. That’s her evil counterpart.

But…the characters ARE played by real people. Those people are in various stages of attractiveness.

So really, this is about people that would fuck a book? You book fuckers.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/105 "2009-12-03T17:28:30Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> But…the characters ARE played by real people. Those people are in various stages of attractiveness.
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> So really, this is about people that would fuck a book? You book fuckers.

Its fun, as long as you avoid the paper cuts. 😉

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/106 "2009-12-03T18:16:42Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> But…the characters ARE played by real people. Those people are in various stages of attractiveness.

But _hotness_ is about more than physical appareance. The way a person moves has a lot to do with it; the person’s general personality has a lot more; the person’s attitude about sex, still more.

Michelle Flaherty, Willow Rosenberg, and Lily Aldrin are all identical, as Alyson Hannigan portrays all three. But they are not identically hot.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/107 "2009-12-03T18:28:35Z")

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I voted Willow, but it is a true fact that Agent Scully would have won hands down if she’d been in the poll.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/108 "2009-12-03T20:20:33Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> But _hotness_ is about more than physical appareance. The way a person moves has a lot to do with it; the person’s general personality has a lot more; the person’s attitude about sex, still more.
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> Michelle Flaherty, Willow Rosenberg, and Lily Aldrin are all identical, as Alyson Hannigan portrays all three. But they are not identically hot.

See, that’s the funny thing, hotness is about physical appearance. It’s the most basic form of Teh Hawt. After that, you’ve got stuff like attitude and what not.

I’m just saying that if you ignore the physical part, which is impossible to do because these are characters played in a visual medium and you linked to pictures of the actresses in character, you don’t have enough to go on.

Or it’s just me.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/109 "2009-12-03T21:09:34Z")

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Did anyone say that we’re ignoring the physical part? I thought it was just taken for granted that physical appearance was a significant portion of what we were judging here.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/110 "2009-12-03T21:52:10Z")

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> [@melodyharmonius](#):
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> Cause I think she is and would totally do her.

Can I watch?

Help?

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/111 "2009-12-03T23:42:03Z")

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> [@melodyharmonius](#):
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> For the record, this is about “geek” girls - not “nerdy” girls - and there is a difference.

Not to get into a semantic debate, but are “geek” girls socially awkward and “nerd” girls smart and bookish or is it the other way around?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/112 "2009-12-03T23:48:07Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Not to get into a semantic debate, but are “geek” girls socially awkward and “nerd” girls smart and bookish or is it the other way around?

You’ll never get the townsfolk to agree. When _I_ use the term, _geek girl_ requires great intelligence, obsessive tendencies, and some sort of social maladjustment. The latter doesn’t necessarily mean awkward. Abby Sciuto isn’t bashful, for instance, nor does she have early Willow’s body dysmorphia or Chloe O’Brian’s near-Aspergers–but she doesn’t have the same boundaries as most people and doesn’t quite get that.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/113 "2009-12-04T15:05:31Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> You’ll never get the townsfolk to agree. When _I_ use the term, _geek girl_ requires great intelligence, obsessive tendencies, and some sort of social maladjustment. The latter doesn’t necessarily mean awkward. Abby Sciuto isn’t bashful, for instance, nor does she have early Willow’s body dysmorphia or Chloe O’Brian’s near-Aspergers–but she doesn’t have the same boundaries as most people and doesn’t quite get that.

When I was growing up:

Geek - smart and eccentric in a good way.

Nerd - smart and eccentric in a bad way.

I’m sure it flip flops around the country.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/114 "2009-12-04T15:53:16Z")

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And then there’s the ever elusive “dork.” The boundaries are ill-defined at best.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/115 "2009-12-04T15:57:25Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Did anyone say that we’re ignoring the physical part? I thought it was just taken for granted that physical appearance was a significant portion of what we were judging here.

I believe that’s what it says in the original post. Anywhoot, I’ve derailed this fun train for long enough.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/116 "2009-12-04T16:08:04Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Michelle Flaherty, Willow Rosenberg, and Lily Aldrin are all identical, as Alyson Hannigan portrays all three. But they are not identically hot.

Well, that’s true, but Lily’s now much older than Willow and Michelle. 😉

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
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> [@GoodOmens](#):
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> And then there’s the ever elusive “dork.” The boundaries are ill-defined at best.

_Dork_ doesn’t imply intelligence the way that _nerd_ and _geek_ do. I know people who proudly call themselves by the latter two, but I can’t imagine anyone taking _dork_ as anything but an insult.

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> Well, that’s true, but Lily’s now much older than Willow and Michelle. 😉

But Willow didn’t turn “hawt” until she encountered her doppleganger and impersonated her. The “softer side of Sears” isn’t hot. Bustier and leather is.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hottest-of-the-televison-geek-girls/519272/119 "2009-12-04T18:32:25Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Not to get into a semantic debate, but are “geek” girls socially awkward and “nerd” girls smart and bookish or is it the other way around?

> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> You’ll never get the townsfolk to agree. When _I_ use the term, _geek girl_ requires great intelligence, obsessive tendencies, and some sort of social maladjustment. The latter doesn’t necessarily mean awkward. Abby Sciuto isn’t bashful, for instance, nor does she have early Willow’s body dysmorphia or Chloe O’Brian’s near-Aspergers–but she doesn’t have the same boundaries as most people and doesn’t quite get that.

> [@BlinkingDuck](#):
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> When I was growing up:
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> Geek - smart and eccentric in a good way.
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> Nerd - smart and eccentric in a bad way.
> 
> I’m sure it flip flops around the country.

> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> _Dork_ doesn’t imply intelligence the way that _nerd_ and _geek_ do. I know people who proudly call themselves by the latter two, but I can’t imagine anyone taking _dork_ as anything but an insult.

My opinion:

**Geeks** are people with a “geekdom” - they have a specific passion for a genre or field of some time. They “geek out” over it to the point of semi- or full-blown obsession. Computer geeks, Sci Fi geeks, Band geeks - they are all about their related category. And that’s where a lot of their intelligence base lies. You can even have sport geeks - guys who can quote ever stat for every player for every year of their chose team. This geekiness causes them to be potentially socially awkward to those who don’t share their knowledge base, but among their peers they have their own levels of standard socialization. Geeks can be very socially outgoing - you just might have no idea what we are talking about.

**Nerds** are people who are generally socially awkward because they tend to be more introverted and introspective - more of the bookworm types who just in general don’t know how to transfer their logical sensibilities in to common socialization sense.

**Dorks** are people who just don’t get it. They can actually be quite dumb and that makes them socially awkward. I mean, a “dork” is a whale penis - a thing that just hangs out and can even freeze and break off the whale because it doesn’t have enough sense to come in from the cold. (whatches the male readers all cross their legs.)

(I should probably clarify that I run a group called The Charlotte Geeks, so I might be slightly biased.)

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> _Dork_ doesn’t imply intelligence the way that _nerd_ and _geek_ do. I know people who proudly call themselves by the latter two, but I can’t imagine anyone taking _dork_ as anything but an insult.

Huh. I know a lot of people who refer to themselves as dorks. They generally mean they are a bit clumsy, and have slightly eclectic interests, but aren’t so horribly into them that it makes them socially awkward.

One girl I’m thinking of likes playing old video games, has a bunch of really corny jokes, and is much hotter than anyone in this thread. The big thing is she can completely and totally hide her dorkiness. If you met her, you would think she was totally mainstream. But, get to know her a little better, and she turns into a total goofball.

I can think of a few others, but I think I’ve got the general traits down. Being hot isn’t 100% required, but looking “normal” is. You have to be able to successfully hide your dorkiness, even if you don’t normally want to. And you pretty much have to be female. But the main thing is that you have interests outside the norm, and have a quirky attitude with people you know.

And you have to be willing to make fun of yourself. The only way I’ve heard this is “I’m such a dork LOL!”

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