# "House" 04/19 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194 "2005-04-20T05:55:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/1 "2005-04-20T05:55:23Z")
I thought it was a very good episode, particularly House’s fantasy sequence at the beginning. I was a little unclear about what happened to Wilson. Vogler didn’t call a vote to fire him, right? He called a vote to have him removed from the board, didn’t he? Then Wilson resigned? It’s interesting to note that Jennifer Morrison is still in the opening credits. I thought she might walk in the door at the end of the episode, actually. I thought it was pretty nifty that they used a Grant Lee Buffalo song over the end of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/2 "2005-04-20T05:58:51Z")
Wilson was given the option of being removed from the board or quitting. Wilson didn’t feel that being forced to step down from the board would be good for his career. He needed the prestige. I’m assuming that Jennifer Morrison will reappear before the season ends. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/3 "2005-04-20T06:17:46Z")
Yeah, Wilson thought that having ‘removed from the board’ on his record wouldn’t be any good for his career. So he resigned instead. As for Cameron. I think they may just string it along for a few more episodes with the budding rivalry between the guys. Wish they’d have kept Vogler on a bit longer. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/4 "2005-04-20T06:41:03Z")
But the Vogler character had become untenable. He was being too much of a dictator. The question I have is: Who owns the hospital? It’s not a state hospital or county hospital? It’s way too nice and shiny. So it has to be private? But then who owns it? Wouldn’t it have to be some healthcare corporation? Would a company just cede control of one of its assets to somebody that easily? Vogler’s money was supposed to be going to the hospital, not improving the bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/5 "2005-04-20T11:15:47Z")
My big question is how much of that $100 million did they manage to spend in the month that Vogler was around? I’m guessing they ordered a boatload of expensive machinery… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/6 "2005-04-20T14:02:50Z")
Yeah, Vogler was getting ridiculous. Don’t like someone, fire them. Is is possible that a hospital would cede so much control to someone not in the medical field just because they have the big bucks? Hmm, now that I think about it I guess that’s entirely possible. House’s dream sequences was priceless. This show always picks such good music. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/7 "2005-04-20T14:40:09Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Yeah, Vogler was getting ridiculous. I wanted House to be more proactive in getting Vogler. Two things immediately jumped to my mind: #1 - Why didn’t House go to the FDA to accuse Vogler of blackmailing him to promote the drug? I think they’d be interested in that, particularly after Vogler made the big speech about how the USDA goes after one death in a clinical trial. #2 - Go the SEC and complain that Vogler is blackmailing him to drive up the price of Vogler’s company’s stock based on the drug sales. I think House could have crushed Vogler because of the blackmail over his staff and departments, not just wait for the Board to make a decision. BTW, my daugher is a huge House fan and said on some other board she read that Sela Ward is supposed to join the cast for several episodes as House’s former girlfriend. Anyone else hear about this? ---
**Author:** ![audreyayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@audreyayn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audreyayn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/8 "2005-04-20T14:58:48Z")
I was expecting some pull from some of House’s weightier success stories (the politician, pitcher and musician) or possibly a lawsuit from the husband for the C-section being stopped at a time when it could have saved his wife. Maybe lawsuits don’t exist in the House universe, it’d explain why he gets away with so much. Yeah, Vogler was ridiculous–in the same way House is, making a big deal out of every little thing. House is not a symbol. He’s a guy who trades on his abilities for special priviledges. But if you don’t treat the elite like they’re elite, you wind up with just the mediocre. Turning a blind eye to his attitude works for the hospital. And it’s not his fault his patients nearly die before he cures them, since otherwise we wouldn’t have a show. 😉 I like the lack of an obvious moral. I wonder if House will make an attempt at being a better friend to Wilson after that little speech? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/9 "2005-04-20T16:28:20Z")
> [@5que](#): > > BTW, my daugher is a huge House fan and said on some other board she read that Sela Ward is supposed to join the cast for several episodes as House’s former girlfriend. Anyone else hear about this? I didn’t hear that. But, in the newest copy of _Entertainment Weekly_, Lisa Edelstein (Dr. Cuddy) says that, as a part of the backstory that she created for her character, Dr. Cuddy and House have an old “relationship.” But that she couldn’t see anything happening now, because you just couldn’t picture Cuddy and House in a romantic scene. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/10 "2005-04-20T17:35:38Z")
Re: Why House didn’t go to the FDA about Vogler–at the time, he was closer to the point when Vogler pointed out that, although House had tenure, Wilson & Cuddy were both vulnerable, so it looked like House was going to play nice to save his friends. Turns out, no, he wasn’t, so Wilson had to go away for a while, and Cameron for pretty much the same reasoning expressed above for Wilson–better to quit out of a bad situation than to get fired out of one. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/11 "2005-04-20T17:43:57Z")
> [@5que](#): > > BTW, my daugher is a huge House fan and said on some other board she read that Sela Ward is supposed to join the cast for several episodes as House’s former girlfriend. Anyone else hear about this? TV Guide says this is true. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/12 "2005-04-20T17:50:07Z")
> [@5que](#): > > BTW, my daugher is a huge House fan and said on some other board she read that Sela Ward is supposed to join the cast for several episodes as House’s former girlfriend. Anyone else hear about this? Yes, this is true. Spoiler for upcoming ep: She will play “Stacy,” whom Wilson blew off joining House at the monster-truck rally a few episodes back, to have dinner with. She is House’s former girlfriend (who was with him during the leg-infarction period and left him right around that time), now married to somebody else, and her new husband has a life-threatening illness that forces Stacy to seek Wilson’s (and eventually House’s) help. She ends up working at the hospital for awhile, sending House somewhat over the edge for the season finale. She’s scheduled for 5 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/13 "2005-04-20T17:55:58Z")
Further corroboration of the Sela Ward addition: [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/1224/2/](http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/1224/2/) As far as “Babies & Bathwater” goes, the one thing I noticed was at the end of the episode, when the guys are drinking in House’s office. Cuddy says something like “… saved you, saved Wilson, saved the whole team.” Then there is a _very_ significant pause, during which I was thinking “except Cameron, you … you … you not nice people you!” Expletives aside, it seems to me that pause was designed to remind us of Cameron, which, for me at least, confirms that she’s coming back, and soon. ---
**Author:** ![Mottpot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Mottpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mottpot)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/14 "2005-04-20T18:37:27Z")
I have missed a couple episodes but I absolutely love this show. The thing that stood out most to me with this episode was how compassionate House was toward the husband when he had to make the final decision about saving the baby. I have never seen him show such a caring attitude and be so gentle with someone. I loved it! ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/15 "2005-04-20T18:53:32Z")
And the Patient of the Week died. Doesn’t that make some people feel a bit more satisfied? Now she can go back to “Two and a Half Men”. But her “sister” (Sela Ward) will be joining the show. Does Dr. House ever do any research, give papers or lectures or attend conferences? If he doesn’t, how does he know everything? ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/16 "2005-04-20T21:46:57Z")
I love this show, but doesn’t everyone seem a little bit too worried about losing their job? The doctors seem to be experienced, well-known and highly respected, and it seems strange that they would put up with such disrespectful treatment from Vogler. Surely they wouldn’t have a hard time finding another job. And that’s a pretty wimpy hospital board. They didn’t realize they were letting themselves be pushed around until Cuddy made her speech at the end? I hope Cameron comes back. I like the thing developing between her and House. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-04-19/300194/17 "2005-04-21T00:17:09Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > But the Vogler character had become untenable. He was being too much of a dictator. > > The question I have is: Who owns the hospital? It’s not a state hospital or county hospital? It’s way too nice and shiny. So it has to be private? But then who owns it? Wouldn’t it have to be some healthcare corporation? Would a company just cede control of one of its assets to somebody that easily? Vogler’s money was supposed to be going to the hospital, not improving the bottom line. For Vogler, they made him a dictator WAAAAY too fast. It was kind of silly. As for ownership, they are being very vague on that point, but obviously they are having financial problems.