# House 11/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290 "2008-11-12T03:12:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/41 "2008-11-13T13:42:09Z")
> [@elelle](#): > > I took it as House thinking of the mosquito as the vector, and that you couldn’t kill the messenger of one’s irritation: you have to deal with it yerself. The mosquito reminds one of irritation outside oneself; that a tiny insect, like seeds of mental complexes/duress, can create huge complications. Not killing the mosquito is a mental exercise in letting go and seeing what that concern reaps. > > Yeah, I prolly think too much… When he compared his hands and saw that the mosquito plaguing him was in the same place on his left hand as the bite on his right, I think he realized it _was_ just a symbol of how much his reaction to kissing Cuddy was bugging him. Pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/42 "2008-11-13T14:38:26Z")
Can anyone explain the Ric Ocasek joke? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/43 "2008-11-13T15:29:59Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Doesn’t he? Doesn’t he run like a Welshman? Posts like that are exactly why you will be allowed to live relatively unmolested after the conquest. ---
**Author:** ![Atomicflea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Atomicflea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomicflea)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/44 "2008-11-13T16:29:08Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > I really liked Cuddy describing how a relationship with House would go (I think she nailed it, too), and Wilson busting her on it. I also really liked how Wilson knew House wasn’t kidding when he said he hit that last night, blah blah. I walked in late, and so I missed the first half. Anyone care to recap what Cuddy said about a relationship with House, and whether or not they did sleep together? I thought they _didn’t._ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/45 "2008-11-13T18:27:32Z")
> [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](#): > > Can anyone explain the Ric Ocasek joke? Just a wild guess, I’d say House was referring to the classic Cars video for [“You Might Think”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ClcUuin2s&fmt=18) in which a CGI mosquito with Ocasek’s head pesters his love interest. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/46 "2008-11-13T18:30:58Z")
> [@Atomicflea](#): > > I walked in late, and so I missed the first half. Anyone care to recap what Cuddy said about a relationship with House, and whether or not they did sleep together? I thought they _didn’t._ They didn’t sleep together. Basically Cuddy, after averring that she had never thought of House in a romantic or sexual fashion, told Wilson that she was in pain and lonely, and that House was a friend and generally unhappy, and that they had inadvertently comforted one another with their tongues. She also said that a relationship with House would start off good, as his myterious, silent, bad-boy, loquacious-yet-emotionally-taciturn aura would be exciting. But before long, the emotional unavailability that made him intriguing in theory would become endlessly frustrating in practice, and they’d end up hating one another no matter how good the sex was. Wilson then observed that she was remarkably articulate on the subject for someone who had never thought about it, whereupon she told him, in a gentle, friendly, non-profane fashion, to go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/47 "2008-11-13T19:20:05Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > \ Wilson then observed that she was remarkably articulate on the subject for someone who had never thought about it, whereupon she told him, in a gentle, friendly, non-profane fashion, to go fuck himself. I must respectfully disagree; when Wilson busted Cuddy on having spent a lot of time thinking about this, she had the grace to look a little sheepish, then told him to go fuck himself. 🙂 You know, you guys have changed my thinking about the ending. I thought House was being a big, fat coward, but he has indubitably done the same thinking about their relationship as Cuddy. It might have been the braver thing to not attempt a relationship that he knows will end badly. Yeah, Cameron and 13 were pretty interchangeable. House needs better foils. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/48 "2008-11-13T19:25:08Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > I must respectfully disagree; when Wilson busted Cuddy on having spent a lot of time thinking about this, she had the grace to look a little sheepish, then told him to go fuck himself. 🙂 I know, but my way is funnier. (I’m comparing post to post, not scene to scene.) > [@](#): > > You know, you guys have changed my thinking about the ending. I thought House was being a big, fat coward, but he has indubitably done the same thinking about their relationship as Cuddy. It might have been the braver thing to not attempt a relationship that he knows will end badly. No, he was cowardly. It’s not because he chose not to purse a relationship with Cuddy; it’s because he refused to even attempt to make the changes in himself that would permit him to be happy, or at least to alleviate his general misery. Even telling Cuddy that he loves her, or wants her, would require him to risk change, and he can’t bear change. ---
**Author:** ![Atomicflea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Atomicflea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomicflea)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/49 "2008-11-14T04:13:34Z")
I’m not sure if it was because he didn’t want to change so much as he hates being proven wrong. His whole persona is based on being right. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/50 "2008-11-14T09:37:05Z")
According to one line in one show, House and Cuddy did sleep together once (perhaps back in medical school): > **[Lisa Cuddy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Cuddy)** > > Lisa Cuddy, M.D., is a fictional character on the Fox medical drama House. She is portrayed by Lisa Edelstein. Cuddy was the dean of medicine of the fictional Princeton-Plainsboro Teaching Hospital in New Jersey. Cuddy quit her job after the events of season seven's finale "Moving On". > Cuddy's job title in House is Dean of Medicine and Hospital Administrator. She is Jewish, and has a mother and one sister; her father is dead. She began dreaming of becoming a doctor when she was 12, graduated fro... ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/51 "2008-11-14T10:02:32Z")
Mine cut out before the end too, which it usually does, but wasn’t this episode on a special night or time? Weird that they single out House for the weird timing no matter when it airs. I was amazed to see an actual Cameron plot line. Hopefully the writers have decided to actually start using her and Chase again for more than cameos. If they don’t, they should just ditch them altogether. Unless they are just keeping them for contractual reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Atomicflea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Atomicflea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomicflea)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/52 "2008-11-14T11:28:55Z")
I agree. They’re just more interesting to me than Thirteen and Taub. I like Kutner’s attitude, and I feel that that character has been underdeveloped. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/53 "2008-11-14T13:35:16Z")
Okay, so this guy who was shot with lead bullets is displaying all the classic signs of lead poisoning and it never occurs to the doctors to check for it? Sheesh! And the “toxics stored in fat are now being released because the patient is losing weight” is becoming a House cliche. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/54 "2008-11-14T16:33:27Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Okay, so this guy who was shot with lead bullets is displaying all the classic signs of lead poisoning and it never occurs to the doctors to check for it? Sheesh! Plus which I find it hard to believe that it wouldn’t show up in his blood screen if he’s showing enough symptoms to be treated. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/55 "2008-11-14T18:01:01Z")
And House _had_ to cut out the fragments immediately (instantly finding them amidst all the blood and goo of course) because otherwise … ? Um. Okay, I’m lost here. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/56 "2008-11-14T21:01:29Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Plus which I find it hard to believe that it wouldn’t show up in his blood screen if he’s showing enough symptoms to be treated. I posted about this somewhere yesterday; I thought was this thread. Anyway, lead poisoning shows up as [basophilic stippling on your red blood cells](http://www2.umdnj.edu/mimmweb/hemeweb/session%202/basophilstippling400.jpg) in the most basic, commonly-ordered screening test done in hospitals (a CBC and differential). So yeah, my conscious suspension of disbelief is working overtime with the medicine of this show as usual. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/57 "2008-11-14T21:12:30Z")
> [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](#): > > Can anyone explain the Ric Ocasek joke? I can’t remember the precise line, but I think House was asked something like why he doesn’t pursue the woman of his dreams, and he said he would, but Ric Ocasek wouldn’t be too happy. I think it’s just a reference to the fact that Ric Ocasek is married to [Paulina Porizkova](http://www.poptower.com/images/db/701/500/500/paulina-porizkova.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/58 "2008-11-14T22:33:58Z")
> [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](#): > > Can anyone explain the Ric Ocasek joke? > [@Meltdown](#): > > I can’t remember the precise line, but I think House was asked something like why he doesn’t pursue the woman of his dreams, and he said he would, but Ric Ocasek wouldn’t be too happy. > > I think it’s just a reference to the fact that Ric Ocasek is married to [Paulina Porizkova](http://www.poptower.com/images/db/701/500/500/paulina-porizkova.jpg). Good answer. Much better than mine, and undoubtedly what the writers had in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/59 "2008-11-14T22:53:58Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Good answer. Much better than mine, and undoubtedly what the writers had in mind. Thanks to you both. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290/60 "2008-11-18T00:13:57Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > I was amazed to see an actual Cameron plot line. Hopefully the writers have decided to actually start using her and Chase again for more than cameos. If they don’t, they should just ditch them altogether. Unless they are just keeping them for contractual reasons. Oh my God, oh my God! So… watching **Fringe** has had me craving reruns of **Dawson’s Creek** (Peter and Pacey are basically the same character, just a handful of years apart in age). Guess who is a guest-star in season 5? Jennifer Morrison, that’s who. She was a rich kid Pacey hooked up with for the first couple of episodes that season. I can’t believe I’ve watched House for all this time and didn’t remember she was in anything else I’ve seen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-11/472290.md?page=4)