# House 11/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261 "2007-11-13T17:36:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/21 "2007-11-14T19:06:29Z")
[QUOTE=kingpengvin] I thought the scene with Cameron in front of the mirror practicing and Chase in the background odd. At first I thought they were setting up House who would, despite his annoyance at the film crew, be narcissistic to watch the rushes. There was no pay of so I guess the slip up was a slip up and she really wanted to go to the crew to record her retraction. Sigh. [/QUOTE] I think it’s more of an ongoing story point. You could tell Chase was bothered by the whole thing. Trouble brewing. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/22 "2007-11-14T19:10:28Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages] I understood the word as “Blew” immediately. Good one! I love it that House can just fire someone and then ask her out. He never even thinks of how it must feel to that person or how it looks to everyone else. Very consistent with his character and behavior. [/QUOTE] FWIW, Wilson had suggested that he do that during one of their discussions about her. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/23 "2007-11-14T19:22:27Z")
Anyone notice that the plastic surgeon’s partner asked House “What don’t you like about yourself?” That is the same line that they greet patients with on FX’s Nip/Tuck. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/24 "2007-11-14T20:09:14Z")
Kudos to the kid acting under all that latex, and he and Dad (where was Mom?) had a good dynamic. Michael Michelle has two facial expressions, and trying to see her act when CIA hottie was fired was downright painful. And House admitting a mistake…?! Classic, and a great way to bring in Wilson, my hero. Not that his Wiccan story wasn’t terrific too. We had a clue that the docco crew, despite the oh-so-artsy B&W shakeycam, was actually making a pretty shallow Afterschool Special type of thing early on when the blonde lady asked Chase to say out loud that Kevin’d be ready for his junior prom; so the ending with Fuzzy!House was not unexpected but executed superbly. Yes, Plastic Surgeon guy was a balder, shorter, slightly less square-jawed Michael Scott to the point where it was quite distracting. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/25 "2007-11-14T21:24:23Z")
[QUOTE=IvoryTowerDenizen] I was annoyed he ruled out Lyme disease merely based on the absence of the target rash. A diagnostician like House would know that the rash appears only in a percentage of the cases and the absence of one is not conclusive. That was a yank-me-out of the show moment for me. [/QUOTE] This reads like a bit of revisionist history to me. House does this _all the time_! He did it about 15 times during this episode alone in response to the Inter-Cranial Pressure diagnosis. 90% of brilliance is demonstrated by his ability to sarcastically dismiss apparently valid diagnoses based on the thinnest of explanations aside from his own faith that he’s right. It’s the entire basis of his character. Half of Wilson and Cuddy’s concern is that there’s a lot of luck involved in those diagnoses and that they are waiting for the other shoe to drop. I’ll grant that it stretches credibility on occasion, but that’s the whole premise of the show so to say that this particular case in this particular episode was jarring to you seems a little peculiar. > [@Dewey Finn](#): > > And it really stretched credibility to show House ducking into MRI suites, operating rooms and exam rooms to talk privately to the ducklings. Certainly the woman who was undergoing the gynecological exam would not have accepted having House and the surgeon conduct a private conversation during her exam. Again, this is a incredibly common theme. He’s constantly barging into exam rooms and ORs. I think there’s been previous examples where he’s _walked in on pelvic exams_. Totally fits in his character and it fits in the way that the staff would respond, i.e. that they wouldn’t. The documentary crew was conducting an interview while a guy was getting a rectal exam for Pete’s sake. It’s one of the conceits of the show. Seems like if you are a fan of the show, you would have already suspended disbelief in both these two cliches. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/26 "2007-11-14T21:33:54Z")
It seemed to me that the kid’s wandering eye switched sides after the surgery Am I imagining that? [QUOTE=Omniscient] Seems like if you are a fan of the show, you would have already suspended disbelief in both these two cliches. [/QUOTE] I pretty much have to pretend that the medical aspect of the show is entirely incidental to the narrative. It’s a modern day Sherlock Holmes, and could just as easily be taking place in a warehouse, or a factory, or mega-company. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/27 "2007-11-14T21:48:13Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] I pretty much have to pretend that the medical aspect of the show is entirely incidental to the narrative. It’s a modern day Sherlock Holmes, and could just as easily be taking place in a warehouse, or a factory, or mega-company. [/QUOTE] Just like anyone with any understanding of law enforcement lets go of reality when watching _24_ and any Washington insider scoffs at the drama of _The West Wing_. I’m consistently amazed at how medical shows tend to take so much heat for the slightest inconsistency or flawed doctor-speak. What makes these settings so different from any other fictional program? ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/28 "2007-11-14T22:20:04Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] This reads like a bit of revisionist history to me. House does this _all the time_! He did it about 15 times during this episode alone in response to the Inter-Cranial Pressure diagnosis. 90% of brilliance is demonstrated by his ability to sarcastically dismiss apparently valid diagnoses based on the thinnest of explanations aside from his own faith that he’s right. It’s the entire basis of his character. Half of Wilson and Cuddy’s concern is that there’s a lot of luck involved in those diagnoses and that they are waiting for the other shoe to drop. I’ll grant that it stretches credibility on occasion, but that’s the whole premise of the show so to say that this particular case in this particular episode was jarring to you seems a little peculiar. [/QUOTE] I don’t have too much problem with this. I remember watching a documentary about trying to write a diagnostics program, sort of a “if-this-then-this” logic tree. It showed a programmer interviewing a brilliant diagnostician and asking him something like, “So how did you know from these results that the diagnosis was such-and-such,” and the doctor _didn’t know_. Apparently, it was the intuition built up from dealing with thousands and thousands of cases that worked its way into the doctor’s subconscious. Something just clicked. I suspending my disbelief with House by thinking the same thing is going on, prodded by discussions with his minions. ---
**Author:** ![Unix\_Geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unix_geek/32/19368_2.png) [@Unix\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unix_Geek)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/29 "2007-11-14T22:22:07Z")
[QUOTE=Mehitabel] Kudos to the kid acting under all that latex, and he and Dad (where was Mom?) had a good dynamic. [/QUOTE] There was a scene at the beginning as they got off a train where Dad was talking to Mom on a cell phone and asking about the other kids in the family. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/30 "2007-11-14T23:15:52Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] This reads like a bit of revisionist history to me. House does this _all the time_! He did it about 15 times during this episode alone in response to the Inter-Cranial Pressure diagnosis. 90% of brilliance is demonstrated by his ability to sarcastically dismiss apparently valid diagnoses based on the thinnest of explanations aside from his own faith that he’s right. [/QUOTE] Well, this medical fact is one I knew- so it jumped out at me! ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/31 "2007-11-15T04:20:43Z")
I think the plastic surgeon totally looks like Steve Carell too. I kept thinking “this network is trying to line up their own Carell, because he’s so ‘hot’” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/32 "2007-11-15T11:33:50Z")
[QUOTE=cochrane] “Where did you get those keys?” “Blue, the janitor.” “What?!!!” “That’s his name.” “His name’s Lou.” “Tell him I owe him an apology.” [/QUOTE] Strangely, I actually heard it this way. Had to piece the joke together retroactively, and by then it wasn’t all that funny. Too bad for me. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/33 "2007-11-16T20:16:15Z")
This was, to me, the best and worst episode of the season. The camera crew schtick was almost unbearably annoying, and I was so relieved that they dropped it for the most part during the second half of the episode. However, the interaction between House and the Dr. Taub was very entertaining, and I agree with Wilson seems to just get better and better. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/34 "2007-11-16T22:47:13Z")
Get rid of the ducklings. They are completely unnecessary and distracting to boot. Cameron just has no idea what to do with her hair. The bangs, then dying it blonde…just awful. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/35 "2007-11-16T23:08:55Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] Get rid of the ducklings. They are completely unnecessary and distracting to boot. Cameron just has no idea what to do with her hair. The bangs, then dying it blonde…just awful. That is all. [/QUOTE] Oh, right…I meant to add that Cameron and Chase are completely useless. I’m still on the fence about Foreman. But for them to suggest that we should care that Cameron is still pining for House…give me a break. Let it go; let them go. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/36 "2007-11-18T17:51:49Z")
As to the “Fuzzy House” clip from the “documentary” at the end: 1. The documentary producer was the usual idiot and wanted to make House look fuzzy because that’s what these kind of people do. 2. The documentary producer was ticked off royally at House and decided as payback to characterize House as fuzzy because they knew it would make him very, very angry. While 1 is more likely, 2 would be more fun. No reasonably intelligent person could of course believe that House was inspired by “Patch Adams”. But that doesn’t necessarily include the documentary producers. And why was Foreman in this episode? ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/37 "2007-11-18T17:54:48Z")
[QUOTE=ftg] And why was Foreman in this episode? [/QUOTE] To serve as the voice of reason when Dr. House’s mind was clouded by horniness. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/38 "2007-11-18T21:29:09Z")
[QUOTE=Snooooopy] To serve as the voice of reason when Dr. House’s mind was clouded by horniness. [/QUOTE] Or, because the actor is under contract and they have no earthly idea what to do with him. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261/39 "2007-11-20T03:57:40Z")
[QUOTE=Snooooopy] To serve as the voice of reason when Dr. House’s mind was clouded by horniness. [/QUOTE] But he went to Wilson for real confirmation and discussion about his “little brain doing the thinking for the big brain” issue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-13/426261.md?page=1)