# House 11/30: Wilson **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 30, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532 "2009-11-30T23:46:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/61 "2009-12-03T12:29:14Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > I second this - I missed the episode where he moved in with Wilson. Why? one of the conditions of being released and relicensed, since he’s a recovering addict and all… anyone else think “stealing” the loft was about as mean as wilson gets? it was a small gesture in retaliation to cuddy’s justified decisions. she’s in her right to do so, but it irks wilson so he decides to deny her of her apartment (he’s in his right to do so, and it’ll irk her in return). ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/62 "2009-12-03T18:05:17Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > It doesn’t work that way in real life, why should it in a TV show? Because it doesn’t work that way in a positive fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/63 "2009-12-03T23:34:39Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > And any real person’s reaction to that? “Go fuck yourself…until you learn how to be around other people, you’ll be alone.” > > I have a reeeeeally hard time buying the feel-bad-for-House argument. He knows what he’s doing when he’s doing it, the ramifications of it, and most of the angles of the aftermath. It’s all part of the ruse. He’s happy being miserable, for if he weren’t, he’d cease to be miserable, and he wouldn’t be the Dr. Greg House that we’ve all come to love. Well, I’m kind of a doormat for letting people get away with ridiculous things and still loving them, so I buy that some people would put up with his shit. Frankly, I would, at least for a while. _Someone_ has to love the unloveables. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/64 "2009-12-04T02:17:22Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Well, I’m kind of a doormat for letting people get away with ridiculous things and still loving them, so I buy that some people would put up with his shit. Frankly, I would, at least for a while. _Someone_ has to love the unloveables. And I’m with you… …to an extent. If I were Lisa Cuddy, I’d put him in a box and have only papers, food, and water go through the door so he can live and diagnose stuff. “Oh, and here we have something we’re really proud of, Dr. House’s box! He’s in there diagnosing right now.” ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/65 "2009-12-04T02:37:35Z")
the way she’s written, she loves the attention. never wearing a coat, always having at least 1/3 of her breasts showing, 3 inch heels… that is not how a hospital administrator dresses, especially one that is trying to avoid the boner-lust. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/66 "2009-12-04T15:34:31Z")
There’s only _one_ operating room in the whole hospital? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/67 "2009-12-04T15:45:58Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > the way she’s written, she loves the attention. never wearing a coat, always having at least 1/3 of her breasts showing, 3 inch heels… that is not how a hospital administrator dresses, especially one that is trying to avoid the boner-lust. Right, right, right. She’s partly to blame and all that nonsense. Now at what point does she get fed up with his shit? It appears that she’s there, and about fucking time. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/68 "2009-12-06T06:02:30Z")
The whole point of characters like House is that, even though he’s a jerk, since we’ve essentially followed his life, we sorta get where he is coming from. He’s a jerk, but he’s our jerk. The show doesn’t work if we don’t feel for him somewhat, even if we think he’s a horrible person who is getting everything he deserves. So while we can feel that Cuddy was totally justified in the way she treated House, we still realize that it hurt him. We realize that, while he has a jerky exterior, inside he’s got a [heart of gold](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HiddenHeartOfGold). (If you have a hard time believing he has such a heart, have a look at [Dr Jerk](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrJerk), particularly the part about being a [Jerk With A Heart Of Gold](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold)) ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/69 "2009-12-06T12:14:06Z")
What examples have we been shown of House ever acting in a non-selfish fashion? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/70 "2009-12-06T21:23:17Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > What examples have we been shown of House ever acting in a non-selfish fashion? Saving someone’s life (almost) every week? ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/71 "2009-12-06T21:54:20Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Saving someone’s life (almost) every week? Only as a byproduct of his compulsion to solve puzzles. If the cases aren’t interesting House wouldn’t touch them, regardless how many lives might be saved. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/72 "2009-12-06T22:45:36Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > Only as a byproduct of his compulsion to solve puzzles. If the cases aren’t interesting House wouldn’t touch them, regardless how many lives might be saved. Yet sometimes he helps people even after he solves the puzzle. In this episode he did help Wilson try to get an organ donor. In a previous episode he let Chase off the hook for killing a dictator and later for punching him in the face. He saved Wilson’s job in another episode by giving a euthanasia speech. That is all I can think of off hand. There were also other times when a patient was being irrational about a treatment and House had to set them straight. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/73 "2009-12-07T06:09:13Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > He opened up to Cuddy and got hurt big time. Wilson is probably well aware of this and rightfully got mad at Cuddy for handling the situation that way. This. Cuddy has every right to date who ever she wants. But intentional or not, it was bad timing that she started getting serious with someone just as House is ready to open up. And what she did with Wilson was definitely what he said it was - an attempt to coerce a blessing from House vicariously through Wilson, and he was right to rebuke her. What Wilson did with the loft was a tiny slight at Cuddy, what it really was was a show of solidarity with House. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/74 "2009-12-07T06:47:45Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > I don’t get it. In what sense did House “open up to Cuddy and get hurt”? By his own admission his only motivation for showing up at that dinner was to manipulate Cuddy and Lucas to deliberately try to break them up. And almost certainly going to act like a complete jackass in the process. And for that matter, was it even indicated on the show that House was hurt by her action? I missed this somehow. House told Wilson at some point in this episode that he was hurt. House is not completely without fault. He’s a jackass, no doubt about it, and if Cuddy wants to be a jackass in return she can be. However, she still has to suffer the consequences of acting that way. Wilson just decided he wasn’t going to let her get away with it. The show doesn’t show it, but if you think about it House probably suffers big for the way he acts. He has absolutely no friends except Wilson and a bunch of coworkers who only put up with him because he’s a brilliant doctor. If he didn’t have his talent he would only have one friend - Wilson. Cuddy, on the other hand, probably has a great professional and personal life. House causes her trouble, sure, but she chooses to put up with it. She can fire him at any second. So if she wants to start acting like House, then let her suffer for it like House does. That said, I’m also a sucker for loyalty. It was a real show of character by Wilson. It was like him saying, “everyone hates House, but I don’t care, he’s my friend so I’m going to help him.” ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/75 "2009-12-08T15:13:18Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > the way she’s written, she loves the attention. never wearing a coat, always having at least 1/3 of her breasts showing, 3 inch heels… that is not how a hospital administrator dresses, especially one that is trying to avoid the boner-lust. The boyfriend and I spent half the episode snickering because we decided that maybe Cuddy _doesn’t_ dress like that - she dressed like a normal professional woman for this whole Wilson episode, where it was from his point of view. Maybe House just imagines that she dresses like a stripper pretending to be a schoolteacher. And not only do they only have one operating room, they also only have one surgeon. And he works for House again. I guess they don’t have any ER docs at all now that Cameron’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532/76 "2009-12-08T16:27:58Z")
How, when, and why did Cuddy hook up with the PI? I missed that episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-11-30-wilson/519532.md?page=3)