# House 5/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089 "2009-05-11T21:14:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/61 "2009-05-13T00:57:10Z")

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One of the best uses of the giant re-set button ever.

I normally dislike the “it never happened, it was all a dream, you’re going to wake up to in bed next to Suzanne Pleshette” device. Whether it’s Star Trek doing time travel, Bobby Ewing in the shower or the autistic kid at the end of St. Elsewhere, I think it’s weak.

But the way House’s delusions were woven into the reality of what really DID happen was very, very well done.

So, I’m hoping that Stephen Fry really is the therapist he has to see next season.

But mostly, I’m hoping that we get at least ONE episode of House in the loony bin, figuring out that some other patient isn’t really crazy, but instead has some physical ailment causing their abberant behaviour.

thwartme

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/62 "2009-05-13T02:39:49Z")

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I think there’s huge potential next season for House to work through some issues with a therapist of some kind, whether it’s side effects of addiction or genuine mental illness. But it will have to be a monumentally strong character to put up with the epic amount of shit that House would fling at him. Maybe Stephen Fry even has the chops to pull it off; sometimes the best dramatic turns come from comedic actors. I’m not sure I’d take such an opportunity and put it at risk with a bit of stunt casting.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/63 "2009-05-13T03:23:24Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Did anyone else notice that in those cuts back and forth from the psychiatric hospital to the wedding, the three folks waiting on House disappeared and re-appeared? Bad editing, or more psychosis?

Weren’t the “three people” going in with House an intake person, Amber, and Kutner? Or did you mean some time before they’re walking in through the door into the hospital?

Okay, still confused. As far as we know this problem is because of his drug addiction still, right? So if you have a drug addiction, do they typically detox you in a psych hospital? Or is the fact that it’s a psych hospital a defacto ruling out of it’s “just” the pills causing his hallucinations?

Robotarm, do you watch **Bones**? Fry played a shrink on that show, so it’d make the perfect crossover if **House** used him as “Gordon Gordon” too 😃 Gordon said he was retiring, but maybe…

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/64 "2009-05-13T04:23:29Z")

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This was one of my favorite episodes. I even saved it to watch it again, which is rare for me.

I love the fact that it was summer and flowery for the wedding, and nothing but bleak barren trees at the mental institution.

The only thing that ruined the wedding for me was the out-of-tune violin. It was painful to my ears.

And Squawking Man (and his poop) was pure genius!

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**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/65 "2009-05-13T04:47:12Z")

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Forgive me if I missed it in this thread, but could someone please remind me what Amber and the dead doctor said to House at the end?

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**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/66 "2009-05-13T04:57:42Z")

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> [@wonderlust](#):
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> Forgive me if I missed it in this thread, but could someone please remind me what Amber and the dead doctor said to House at the end?

I forgot exactly but there is a decent synopsis on Wiki and here is what someone put in it:

House snaps back to reality, with a hallucination of Amber saying in his ear, “So this is the story you made up about who you are. It’s a nice one,” to which a hallucination of Kutner adds “Too bad it isn’t true.”  
Someone correct me (and the entry for the ep, hah) if that is wrong.

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**Author:** ![erleichda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@erleichda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erleichda)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/67 "2009-05-13T05:15:16Z")

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I just went to check our DVR and someone stopped the recording last night! I’m thinking violent thoughts about the guilty roommate right now!

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/68 "2009-05-13T05:37:50Z")

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The more I think about it, the more I think this is my all-time favorite ep. And I agree, it would be a great ending for the series.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/69 "2009-05-13T06:34:43Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> The only thing that ruined the wedding for me was the out-of-tune violin. It was painful to my ears.

You may not have liked the string arrangements but I can assure you that there wasn’t one out-of-tune note.

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**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/70 "2009-05-13T13:07:01Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I wonder if, next season, House does not show up back to work at the hospital but there will be several episodes taking place in the creepy psychiatric facility. Gad! As I stated on another board, that place looks like there’s ankle deep water in the basements, rats, and torch-lit halls patrolled by retainers named Boris and Igor :eek:.

Maybe next season we’ll see that it’s Arkham Asylum in House’s delusions, but a reputable institution from Wilson and Cuddy’s.

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**Author:** ![FalconFinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@FalconFinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FalconFinder)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/71 "2009-05-13T14:12:43Z")

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For those of you annoyed with your DVR, the episode ran one minute long. This was listed on the House website, but I’m not sure it was mentioned anywhere else.

I have my DVR (not TiVo or the like, just a plain old DVR – like a VCR) set to record all shows 2 minutes early and two minutes late in order to catch some time shift stuff. Always did that with my VCR as well. I could never trust the time on either unit would compare to the network time. I tried using the old “VCR Plus” feature from long ago, and it was never right, so that’s when I decided to pad my record times.

I’ve noticed that the new thing on TV is to run the ending credits of the show before while showing the beginning of the next show. Quite often, I’ll be watching one show on one channel, it ends at what appears to be the right time, and then switch over to the next channel for the show I want to see there, only to find that it started already and I missed stuff!

It’s annoying.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/72 "2009-05-13T14:57:15Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Robotarm, do you watch **Bones**? Fry played a shrink on that show, so it’d make the perfect crossover if **House** used him as “Gordon Gordon” too 😃 Gordon said he was retiring, but maybe…

I’ve only ever seen one episode of _Bones_. I suppose I should give it more of a chance. Maybe Emily will become one of my three favorite Deschanels.

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**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/73 "2009-05-13T15:03:21Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> The only thing that ruined the wedding for me was the out-of-tune violin. It was painful to my ears.

I hope that was just end-of-the-episode montage music, and not actually their wedding music. Wasn’t it a chamber-orchestra cover of “As Tears Go By” by the Rolling Stones? Not exactly the perfect accompaniment to a joyous wedding occasion.

_All I hear is the sound  
Of rain falling on the ground  
I sit and watch  
As tears go by_

[QUOTE=Robot Arm]

Maybe Stephen Fry even has the chops to pull it off; sometimes the best dramatic turns come from comedic actors. I’m not sure I’d take such an opportunity and put it at risk with a bit of stunt casting.

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Stephen Fry is a very accomplished actor, who has had much success in dramatic as well as comedic roles. The excellent U.K. series “[Kingdom](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0841961/)” is a good example. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for his performance as [Wilde](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120514/), and won as part of the [Gosford Park](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280707/) ensemble.

I think he’d be great.

thwartme

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/74 "2009-05-13T16:58:10Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Weren’t the “three people” going in with House an intake person, Amber, and Kutner? Or did you mean some time before they’re walking in through the door into the hospital?

I’m pretty sure they weren’t, but I’m not at home to check the DVR. IIRC, there were two men in lab coats and a woman with long blondish hair wearing a suit. At any rate, when the show was cutting between the wedding, and House approaching the hospital, they were on the steps in one shot, out of the next, and in the last one.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/75 "2009-05-13T17:33:38Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> When you use the “main character is actually crazy” arrow, you don’t have many left in the quiver.

The _Buffy_ episode “Normal Again” was a year and a half before the end of that series.

(For those of you who aren’t fans, “Normal Again” alternated between _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ and _Buffy the Mental Patient Hallucinating about Slaying Vampires_. The ending of the episode left it quite ambiguous about which reality was canon.)

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/76 "2009-05-14T17:00:20Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> Wow TruCelt found something on the interwebs that’s not true! - Sorry to be snarky, but this is why we tell the students at the high school to be wary when they research, esp on t he internet.

Hey a little credit. there were how many minutes in betweeen the two posts?

Brat! 😉

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/77 "2009-05-14T17:41:28Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> The _Buffy_ episode “Normal Again” was a year and a half before the end of that series.
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> (For those of you who aren’t fans, “Normal Again” alternated between _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ and _Buffy the Mental Patient Hallucinating about Slaying Vampires_. The ending of the episode left it quite ambiguous about which reality was canon.)

Never saw the series. I foresee a few interesting shows, for the writers will have fun with their leeway, but possibly a rapid decline.

I’m really disappointed that they didn’t just end the show on this note.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/78 "2009-05-16T14:15:49Z")

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I was behind a few weeks and just got caught up. The woman at the Psych hospital intake looked like Amber from behind, to an extent, but if it was her she was now wearing a pant suit and not what she was wearing in the rest of the episode.

The music at the wedding seemed to be just a string arrangement of the Stones song, but they add the lyrics when they show House and Wilson pulling up to the hospital.

I really liked how they handled the psychotic break, drug induced or otherwise, but what I found very strange was the Mayfield psych hospital (I think that’s what it was called) was filmed in an entirely different season of the year than the wedding. The wedding looks like spring going to summer. The psych hospital is show with no leaves on any of the trees, dark and gloomy. November or February/early March weather.

Is that another psych symptom, or just one part filmed in LA and one filmed in New Jersey?

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**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/79 "2009-05-16T15:55:23Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> The wedding looks like spring going to summer. The psych hospital is show with no leaves on any of the trees, dark and gloomy. November or February/early March weather.
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> Is that another psych symptom, or just one part filmed in LA and one filmed in New Jersey?

I had that figured as _artistic_ – the juxtaposition of House entering a serious mental hospital vs. the two lovebirds. Of course, bad continuity is another option. 😛

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**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-5-11/496089/80 "2009-05-17T17:33:33Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Did anyone else notice that in those cuts back and forth from the psychiatric hospital to the wedding, the three folks waiting on House disappeared and re-appeared? Bad editing, or more psychosis?

No, once you see the three people on the steps of the psychiatric hospital they are there for the remaining shots. My first impression was that the woman on the steps was indeed Amber because the way she was leaning and had her arms folded gave an “I told you so” vibe. But it was a bit ambiguous. Great ending to the season.

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