# "House" = "Holmes"? Any other shows with such titles?

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**Created:** [April 6, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007 "2007-04-06T17:35:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/21 "2007-04-12T18:36:18Z")

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This week’s “House” had Hugh Laurie on a plane–obviously a tribute to the episode of “Friends” where he was Phoebe’s seatmate.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/22 "2007-04-12T18:43:25Z")

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The Marx Brothers’ A Night In Casablanca played off both the film Casablanca and their own A Night at the Opera.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/23 "2007-04-12T21:03:55Z")

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Not a show, but in the same spirit- Fats Domino/Chubby Checker

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/24 "2007-04-12T21:11:01Z")

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Well, if we start including porno titles this thread could get quite long.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/25 "2007-04-12T21:19:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
Well, if we start including porno titles this thread could get quite long.  
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Now that’s a stone fact!

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/26 "2007-04-12T21:57:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
This week’s “House” had Hugh Laurie on a plane–obviously a tribute to the episode of “Friends” where he was Phoebe’s seatmate.  
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Heh… I remember reading the TWoP boards for _Arrested Development_. GOB became a waiter in one episode, and the board members were convinced it was an insult to another Fox show, _Kitchen Confidential_.

Because they both involved restaurants.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/27 "2007-05-19T00:32:47Z")

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My Mom and I were discussing the movie _The American President_, and she asked me why they’d given Annette Bening’s character the seemingly ridiculous first name of Sydney Ellen, which was used in full at every opportunity. She was very impressed when I pointed out that the movie is a Cinderella story, and Sydney Ellen is just a modern version of Cinderella.

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**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/28 "2007-05-19T02:02:46Z")

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To continue the Hugh Laurie theme, the third season of Blackadder, set in Regency England (Hugh is the Prince Regent), had episode titles that were all take-offs on Austen’s “Sense and Sensibilty”: Nob and Nobility, Sense and Senility, Amy and Amiability…

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/29 "2007-05-19T02:12:01Z")

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I don’t think House is that much like Sherlock Holmes.

Holmes co-operated with the authorities (Scotland Yard); House is permanently stroppy  
Holmes gathered evidence and proceeded methodically; House makes leaps :smack:  
Holmes worked with just one assistant; House has a team.

Now Detective Goren (from Law + Order: Criminal Intent) is certainly based on Holmes. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/30 "2007-05-19T12:15:40Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I don’t think House is that much like Sherlock Holmes.

Holmes co-operated with the authorities (Scotland Yard); House is permanently stroppy  
Holmes gathered evidence and proceeded methodically; House makes leaps :smack:  
Holmes worked with just one assistant; House has a team.

Now Detective Goren (from Law + Order: Criminal Intent) is certainly based on Holmes. 🆒  
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I’m pretty sure I haven’t seen any reference to [Connections Between House and Holmes](http://www.housemd-guide.com/holmesian.php) and other such lists posted in this thread, and, of course, the counterpart [Differences between Holmes and House](http://www.housemd-guide.com/holmes-dif.php), but they do suggest more than a coincidental connection.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/31 "2007-05-19T13:30:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase]  
The Marx Brothers’ A Night In Casablanca played off both the film Casablanca and their own A Night at the Opera.  
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Enough so that in one of Groucho’s books he tells about an attempt by Warner Brothers, the studio that released Casablanca, to force a title change, as Warner Brothers had prior rights to the name.

Groucho said that he responded by offering to sue Warner Brothers, as they had been the Marx Brothers prior to the studios founding, and had prior rights to the word “Brothers”. I don’t know how much of this part is true, Groucho never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/32 "2007-05-19T17:44:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
:smack:  
Wow. And House is a vicodin addict, Holmes was a coke and tobacco addict. And on and on.  
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I think it was opium, not coke that Holmes was using.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/33 "2007-05-19T17:53:37Z")

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[QUOTE=FordPrefect]  
I think it was opium, not coke that Holmes was using.  
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“For me,” said Sherlock Holmes, “there still remains the cocaine-bottle.” And he stretched his long white hand up for it.

—A.C. Doyle, _The Sign of Four_.

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/34 "2007-05-20T02:00:27Z")

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I haven’t seen _Hogan’s Heroes_ in years but just recently the name of one of the German characters popped into my head. I tranlated it into English for no reason and was surprised to realize:

Grupenfuhrer Frietag = Sergeant Friday

Cool, huh?

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/35 "2007-05-20T05:13:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
“For me,” said Sherlock Holmes, “there still remains the cocaine-bottle.” And he stretched his long white hand up for it.

—A.C. Doyle, _The Sign of Four_.  
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Doh!

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/36 "2007-05-20T07:55:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
That’s the spirit of the thread! And I hadn’t noticed it before just now. Duh!

This just popped into my mind, and I recognize it as idiotic if not anachronistic, but what if somebody involved in naming Damien from _The Omen_ foresaw “Da Man”? 😃  
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Is it just me or does anyone else think the remake of The Omen is better than the original

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**Author:** ![Matt\_Holck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Matt\_Holck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Matt_Holck)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/37 "2007-05-20T08:07:08Z")

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I really enjoy the 6 episodes of the [PJ’s](http://sun.menloschool.org/~sportman/ethnic/individual/murphy/) that Eddie Murphy produced  
PJ means" Projects" which is similar to House and Home  
'cept the social worker won’t always give you toilet paper.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/38 "2007-05-20T14:02:08Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
Is it just me or does anyone else think the remake of The Omen is better than the original  
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I can see your point on some levels, but I have a thing about remakes in general, and especially those that (like _Psycho_) do nothing to modify the original except to recast it. The only character in the new one to get an appreciable redo is the Julia Stiles version. I liked her version better then Lee Remick’s. But Liev Schreiber doesn’t come close to having the moral struggle that Gregory Peck did. And I think the minor roles in the original were well enough done that the newer versions didn’t help – especially Postlethwaite. It was hard to keep from thinking about _Rosemary’s Baby_ fused with Woody Allen movies’ characters whenever Mia Farrow tried to look menacing.

I’d give the newer version at least one star less than the original, but then the question comes down to how highly I’d rate the original: maybe 3 stars, 3 1/2?

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/39 "2007-05-20T14:37:37Z")

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**Zeldar** The remakes of Psycho, The Wicker Man and countless others have been utterly abysmal.

The Omen, IMO, makes a far better job of it. Incidentally, is Lee Remick still alive?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-holmes-any-other-shows-with-such-titles/399007/40 "2007-05-20T14:50:11Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
**Zeldar** The remakes of Psycho, The Wicker Man and countless others have been utterly abysmal.

The Omen, IMO, makes a far better job of it. Incidentally, is Lee Remick still alive?  
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No quarrel on the oldies you mentioned although I have yet to endure the new _Wicker Man_ having just reseen the original within the past year or two with less than joy. It doesn’t wear as well as I had remembered and I can only imagine how poorly Nick Cage could handle the task. Edward Woodward was about all in the old one that did hold up over the years (well, maybe Chris Lee, too.)

Sadly, [Lee Remick](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001665/) died of cancer in 1991. My favorite roles of hers included _The Long Hot Summer_ and _Days of Wine and Roses_, although _Anatomy of a Murder_ was one of those oldies that did hold up well when I saw it again within the past year or so.

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