# House Judiciary Committee to have hearing on Libby commutation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 4, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516 "2007-07-04T18:28:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/41 "2007-07-07T16:56:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]  
Wasn’t mentioned in the article, but Susan McDougal and Christopher Wade were granted pardons, and both of them were ass-deep in the Whitewater scandal.  
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And how were they “convicted of crimes allegedly perpetrated on Clinton’s behalf”?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/42 "2007-07-07T17:04:30Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Well, OK, bad news:GeeDubya tried to hire Tony Soprano to kill Helen Thomas. But, if the Dems try to make too much out of it, it could backfire!  
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Yes, **luci** I too find myself frequently gratified, mollified, and excitificated that **Moto** continues to show so much concern for the dirty libruls of the Democrat party.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/43 "2007-07-08T20:55:16Z")

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Update: [Patrick Fitzgerald may be called to testify before the **Senate** Judiciary Committee.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070708/pl_nm/usa_crime_libby_senate_dc)

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> Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the ranking Republican member of the committee, said he wanted to hear from Fitzgerald because, “I still haven’t figured out what that case is all about.”
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> “Reluctant as I am to agree with Senator Schumer, I think he’s right,” Specter said on CNN’s “Late Edition.”
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> “Why were they pursuing the matter long after there was no underlying crime on the outing of the CIA agent? Why were they pursuing it after we knew who the leaker was?” Specter said.
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> Sen. Patrick Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who chairs the Judiciary Committee, said that with Specter’s blessing, Fitzgerald would likely be called.
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> “If he has no objection to Mr. Fitzgerald coming forward, I think you may very well see Mr. Fitzgerald before the Senate Judiciary Committee,” Leahy said on the same CNN program.
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> Leahy said he saw no point in summoning Libby himself because “his silence has been bought and paid for.”

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/44 "2007-07-09T13:45:07Z")

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> “Why were they pursuing the matter long after there was no underlying crime on the outing of the CIA agent? Why were they pursuing it after we knew who the leaker was?” Specter said.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/45 "2007-07-12T14:25:27Z")

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[And, once again, Bush refuses to cooperate.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071101827.html)

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/46 "2007-07-12T14:56:00Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
[And, once again, Bush refuses to cooperate.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071101827.html)  
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Dubya – the Johnny Tightlips of Presidents!

Seriously, don’t the Republicans get it that it’s reasonable for Congress to hold a hearing on this commutation? Sure, Bush has the power to grant commutations, but it’s clear in this instance that he is using it to block investigation of activities by Bush Administration that ordinary citizens (as opposed to lawyers) would regard as treasonous. Congress has not only a right but a duty to investigate activities of that sort, whether Dubya has a “right” to conduct them or not.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/47 "2007-07-13T04:08:10Z")

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[Bush now admits somebody in his Admin leaked Plame’s agent status, but says it’s time to move on.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/12/AR2007071201479.html?hpid=artslot)

Couldn’t agree more, George! Need any help packing?! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/48 "2007-07-13T04:27:31Z")

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I’m a little confused now. I thought it was long established, in some form, that Richard Armitage was the leaker? Had the White House not acknowledged this before?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-judiciary-committee-to-have-hearing-on-libby-commutation/410516/49 "2007-07-13T04:31:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Leaper]  
I’m a little confused now. I thought it was long established, in some form, that Richard Armitage was the leaker? Had the White House not acknowledged this before?  
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[Armitage has admitted it,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage#Role_in_revealing_Valerie_Plame.27s_CIA_employment) but the WH never has.

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