# House Speaker Contest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/601 "2023-01-04T17:17:14Z")

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LOL, the R from Wisconsin categorizing this cluster as a triumph for democracy!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/602 "2023-01-04T17:17:45Z")

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Nah, you’ll get a lot more grift by not defying MAGA, if money is the objective they definitively will not vote for a dem.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/603 "2023-01-04T17:18:30Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Pretty sure 351\>218. Can _any_ Republicans count?

What’s your point? The Clerk was ensuring that there was quorum present which is a well-used tactic to get extra time on the floor to politick before making a motion.

Secondly, this could be a way for McCarthy to get the exact number of Reps present so he know how many votes he needs, in this case 176 and not the 218 if all members are present.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/604 "2023-01-04T17:18:39Z")

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I don’t think they would forget what they would see as a terrible betrayal, and the primary opponents would made sure they remember it.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/605 "2023-01-04T17:20:56Z")

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enemies abroad, eh. bit of a tip of the hand there.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/606 "2023-01-04T17:21:49Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Maybe, maybe not. Some of these guys come from districts where the average IQ hovers somewhere around room temperature, and collective memory is about on par with that. And if their representatives deliver to their districts some badly needed infrastructure (e.g. indoor plumbing) they might decide to forgive and forget.

> [@Frodo](#):
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> Nah, you’ll get a lot more grift by not defying MAGA, if money is the objective they definitively will not vote for a dem.

They wouldn’t vote for Jeffries, but if you get enough of them, they’d just have to “forget” to turn up for a vote and suddenly 212 votes becomes the majority. Their constitutents wouldn’t forgive a vote for a Democrat but they likely wouldn’t remember who was or wasn’t in the room when it happened (to borrow a phrase).

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> What’s your point? The Clerk was ensuring that there was quorum present which is a well-used tactic to get extra time on the floor to politick before making a motion.

General mockery of Stefanik, really, in the context of McCarthy’s failure to count his own supporters in advance.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/607 "2023-01-04T17:23:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> General mockery of Stefanik, really, in the context of McCarthy’s failure to count his own supporters in advance.

I don’t think it is failure to count. I think, quite the opposite, is that he did the count before the opening and still doesn’t have the numbers.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/608 "2023-01-04T17:24:08Z")

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A new name! Byron Donalds! He got one vote in the 1st ballot, IIRC

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/609 "2023-01-04T17:24:17Z")

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oooooh, new candidate. byron donald (sp).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/610 "2023-01-04T17:24:40Z")

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Did he vote for himself?

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/611 "2023-01-04T17:24:46Z")

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Yeah, but it doesn’t always work out. This last midterm, virtually every Repub candidate that tRump backed to primary an incumbent who dared to displease him lost the general. The constituents might remember that, too.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/612 "2023-01-04T17:25:06Z")

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Do we know who is missing? Are there more Ds than Rs who are there?

Brian

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/613 "2023-01-04T17:25:13Z")

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LOL, trying to use this as a Republicans aren’t racist ploy.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/614 "2023-01-04T17:27:19Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Byron Donalds

So a conservative Floridian? We need to nominate someone towards the center, not go more right.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/615 "2023-01-04T17:28:26Z")

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Is the FC plan to nominate a different rando on each ballot?

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/616 "2023-01-04T17:29:26Z")

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Jim Jordan must have told them to knock that shit off, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/617 "2023-01-04T17:29:28Z")

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> House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy told CNN that he is not worried if his opposition grows on the fourth ballot.

Someone has clearly not studied how leadership elections work. Has anyone ever lost votes then won?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/618 "2023-01-04T17:30:35Z")

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i’m thinking that mccarthy loses more votes this time.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/619 "2023-01-04T17:31:14Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> A new name! Byron Donalds! He got one vote in the 1st ballot, IIRC

I thought he was the one who joined the 19 Never Kevin’s on the 3rd ballot to make 20.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/620 "2023-01-04T17:31:35Z")

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Looks like they’re voting now. In class so I have to have the sound off. ☹

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