# House Speaker Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/641 "2023-01-04T17:42:40Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/Q7u4qrl.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Q7u4qrl.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/642 "2023-01-04T17:43:18Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Let’s say someone like Dave Joyce is nominated next round. Do the Dems vote for him to deny McCarthy and those to the Right the Speakership. I mean Jefferies has no chance of winning so why not say WE chose the Speaker for you. All the moderate Republicans are behind McCarthy. They are all standing behind their nominee as Republicans have tended to. It’s only the far-right folks who are nominating other names. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/643 "2023-01-04T17:43:35Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > My guess is we have one round of voting with the exact same holdouts and then an adjournment for more arm-twisting/negotiating. No adjournment. Count the votes and move on to Round 5. Don’t let McCarthy have any opportunity to regroup. Only give them a break if he withdraws so that they have time to select someone in his place. That’s what I’d be in favor of. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/644 "2023-01-04T17:43:44Z")
What’s amazing about Donalds is that he’s only been in the House since 2021. He would be by far the least experienced Speaker since the House existed, as far as I can find. McCarthy was said to be too inexperienced with 5 terms back in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/645 "2023-01-04T17:44:37Z")
Santos: “What I meant was that I have past experience installing speakers in a house at my old job.” ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/646 "2023-01-04T17:47:05Z")
McCarthy has threatened to keep having votes, but at this point it’s in the FC’s interest to refuse a motion to adjourn and keep voting. Each successive vote where McCarthy falls shot makes him look weaker and weaker. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/647 "2023-01-04T17:47:05Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Santos: “What I meant was that I have past experience installing speakers in a house at my old job.” Lol 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/648 "2023-01-04T17:47:31Z")
Looks like 12 now for Donalds. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/649 "2023-01-04T17:47:53Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > What’s amazing about Donalds is that he’s only been in the House since 2021. He would be by far the least experienced Speaker since the House existed, as far as I can find. Less baggage, though. Many people hate Jim Jordan because they know who he is and what he’s done. Who in the general public knows anything about Byron Donalds? On that note, I notice that the former Jordan voters now appear to be Team Donalds. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/650 "2023-01-04T17:49:50Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Each successive vote where McCarthy falls shot makes him look weaker and weaker. Maybe, but if he holds at \>200 then I’m not sure. At some point the holdouts are just tilting at windmills and stopping the House from doing anything else. Surely they have a breaking point too, right? > [@Gyrate](#): > > Less baggage, though. Many people hate Jim Jordan because they know who he is and what he’s done. Who in the general public knows anything about Byron Donalds? Yes, absolutely. But the public perception is only part of the job (and I’d argue a pretty small part). The Speaker needs to lead the caucus and whip votes and do all sorts of things that Donalds has no power base or experience doing. How can he possibly herd this group of cats? Although, to be fair, who could? Jordan votes McCarthy again. So far no additional defections. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/651 "2023-01-04T17:50:19Z")
Can I just say as a Republican that the Dems are really looking good here. Biden’s statement was partisan yet presidential and the D-Representatives are not giving the Pubs an easy way out like the Dems normally do. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/652 "2023-01-04T17:50:59Z")
Is there a particular “check-in” time when a rep needs to be in the chamber in order to be able to vote or can they show up any time during the roll call? How hard would it be for Rs to pull some trickery to prevent Ds from voting? After all, vote suppression is their speciality… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/653 "2023-01-04T17:51:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Who is that woman calling for the votes, and can we get her a whole pencil? Looks like they found an entire box of long pencils for the tally clerks. It’s on the podium behind her. The clerks must think they’re in for the long haul. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/654 "2023-01-04T17:52:01Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > t some point the holdouts are just tilting at windmills and stopping the House from doing anything else. Surely they have a breaking point too, right? The FC don’t care if anything functions. They’re looking to burn it all down and get Twitter followers, not necessarily in that order; governing comes in a very distant third. Don’t count on them breaking first. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/655 "2023-01-04T17:52:32Z")
Did anyone catch what rep-elect Green of TX was going on about? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/656 "2023-01-04T17:52:37Z")
The roll is read all the way through in alphabetical order, then at the end the clerk will once more read through those names that did not respond during the original roll call. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/657 "2023-01-04T17:53:14Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Is there a particular “check-in” time when a rep needs to be in the chamber in order to be able to vote or can they show up any time during the roll call? I’d have to check the rules. I believe you must be in the chamber when the vote starts dating back to the “Disappearing Quorum” that Speaker Reed dealt with once and for all. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/658 "2023-01-04T17:54:21Z")
Just grandstanding about how awesome Hakeem Jeffries is I’m sure. A few Democrats have been doing that every time. Annoying and pointless since nobody can hear them. Luna votes Donalds as well - still no new defections and no new McCarthy votes. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/659 "2023-01-04T17:55:07Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > The Speaker needs to lead the caucus and whip votes and do all sorts of things that Donalds has no power base or experience doing. How can he possibly herd this group of cats? Although, to be fair, who could? Republicans keep saying they want “a change”, even if that means voting for people with no experience or appropriate qualifications whatsoever. That’s how we got the last President. Their priority is ensuring that they get one of their own elected. If that’s the more qualified candidate, so much the better, but they’ll take what they can get. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/660 "2023-01-04T17:55:09Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > On that note, I notice that the former Jordan voters now appear to be Team Donalds. None of the Never Kevin candidates are there to become Speaker. Just to siphon off enough votes to prevent McCarthy from getting it. I’m sure they’ll rotate through a bunch of names until a solution is found. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=34)