# House Speaker Contest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1021 "2023-01-05T16:42:34Z")

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> [@mjmartin](#):
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> Could Trump solve this?

He already tried that by endorsing McCarthy after the first day of this nonsense. It had zero impact on the second day.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1022 "2023-01-05T16:43:15Z")

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> [@mjmartin](#):
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> Could Trump solve this?

He told everyone to support Kevin yesterday morning. They didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1023 "2023-01-05T16:43:52Z")

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Yep. Boebert confirmed that she got a call from Trump, and then she said he needs to tell McCarthy to step down instead.

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**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1024 "2023-01-05T16:44:02Z")

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I agree that he hasn’t or won’t spank Gaetz. But that’s a different question then whether he could.

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**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1025 "2023-01-05T16:45:15Z")

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I hadn’t heard that. That’s really interesting. I thought perhaps Trump was playing both sides a bit.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1026 "2023-01-05T16:46:22Z")

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democrats have no one with which to govern. when they had the majority (same number of votes) they governed, moved legislation, did what needed done.

the republicans have a largish group that does not want to govern and burn it down. they can not elect a speaker, they barely can get a vote to adjourn.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1027 "2023-01-05T16:46:56Z")

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Yep.

> **[Boebert Demands Trump Tell McCarthy to Quit Speaker Race ASAP](https://www.thedailybeast.com/lauren-boebert-demands-trump-tell-mccarthy-to-quit-speaker-race-asap)**
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> The far-right Republican elicited cheers from her compatriots after directly calling on her “favorite president” to tell McCarthy to back down.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1028 "2023-01-05T16:47:20Z")

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Yeah, it was lovely to see that Ms Boebert is calling the shots now, rebuking TFG, and that TFG’s puffery about his presumptive party leadership role has all but melted away.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1029 "2023-01-05T16:47:35Z")

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Democrats are voting in unison for their guy. They’re all good.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1030 "2023-01-05T16:50:33Z")

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Sometimes the adult thing is to confiscate someone’s car keys.

Sometimes the adult thing is to let people realize they need help before helping them.

(and another thing: ##SMACK## Look what you made me do! – your post is gaslighting the issue, their majority, their circus, definitely their monkeys.)

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1031 "2023-01-05T16:55:37Z")

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I just thought of something. Kevin McCarthy has made several concessions to the far right that hasn’t amounted to a lot of support. Is he bound to follow these concessions when he is elected Speaker or could he just “conveniently” forget and fulfill his duties as he sees fit?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1032 "2023-01-05T16:56:55Z")

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The GOP is currently arguing over who gets to lead two years of retaliatory committee investigations and vindictive gridlock.

But sure, the Dems are childish because they have no interest in hurrying the process along.

> [@medstar](#):
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> Is he bound to follow these concessions when he is elected Speaker

No, but it would iron-clad guarantee that he will never get a unanimous vote from the current congress.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1033 "2023-01-05T16:57:02Z")

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Quote from McCarthy: “We will come to a solution otherwise we won’t be successful”

Genius.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1034 "2023-01-05T16:57:19Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Again, the fact that Kevin can’t do it shows he is unfit politically to be Speaker.

Alternately, it shows that the House Republican caucus has become ungovernable.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1035 "2023-01-05T16:58:17Z")

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Quick poll. Winner gets bragging rights.

Who will nominate McCarthy, Jeffries, Donalds?

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1036 "2023-01-05T16:59:43Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Sometimes the adult thing is to confiscate someone’s car keys.
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> Sometimes the adult thing is to let people realize they need help before helping them.

Sometimes letting something break fully is the best way to fix it properly and more fully.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1037 "2023-01-05T17:08:43Z")

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From NY Times live coverage:

> Representative Bob Good of Virginia, one of the rebels, sums up the challenge facing McCarthy: “You don’t ever have to ask me again if I’m a no. I will never vote for Kevin McCarthy.”

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1038 "2023-01-05T17:10:11Z")

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whoa, interview on cnn rep buck states the 20 are one block and will not break apart.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1039 "2023-01-05T17:11:16Z")

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Why would they? They’re not interested in governing. They’re interested in getting their way/publicity/$.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1040 "2023-01-05T17:12:11Z")

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buck says they may not have a speaker by the end of the day, but kevin is done today if he can not get the vote.

who had john james?

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