# House Speaker Contest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1361 "2023-01-05T23:47:25Z")

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Donalds just got a vote

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1362 "2023-01-05T23:49:33Z")

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Take the R away from Present and you become a peasant.

Put the R into a gift and you finally get the grift.

(Don’t read into that too deeply. It popped into my head and I have sinus issues, I blame that.)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1363 "2023-01-05T23:52:42Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> can anyone tell me why reducing the threshold to vacate the chair from 5 votes to 1 vote was so contentious?

Would this rule only affect a Republican speaker (i.e. the Democrats have their own rule about challenging a Democratic speaker)?

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1364 "2023-01-05T23:53:37Z")

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Rules are adopted anew for every congress.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1365 "2023-01-05T23:54:01Z")

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With 7 non-McCarthy “other” votes, isn’t this already dead?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1366 "2023-01-05T23:54:03Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Take the R away from Present and you become a peasant.
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> Put the R into a gift and you finally get the grift.
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> (Don’t read into that too deeply. It popped into my head and I have sinus issues, I blame that.)

Hey, I like it. Well done!

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1367 "2023-01-05T23:57:18Z")

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Yeppers, unless they decide to change their vote at the very end.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1368 "2023-01-05T23:59:27Z")

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This election is obviously rigged, since Trump only has one vote so far.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1369 "2023-01-05T23:59:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> “All you have to do is ask Nancy. Live on television. Make it sincere and you’ve got a deal.”
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> If the Democrats end this, it needs to be “rub their face in it and then hit them with a rolled-up newspaper” clear that they’re saving the day. That they’re pulling the GOP out of its own stinky mess.

Better make it Hakeem. Nancy’s out of leadership, and there’s no better way to impress upon people that there’s a new sheriff in town.

Besides, kneeling before Pelosi has been done before…

> **[US treasury secretary begged Democratic leader on one knee to save his plan...](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/sep/27/wallstreet.useconomy1)**
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> US treasury secretary begged Democratic leader on one knee to save his plan to rescue Wall Street

Fourteen years and they still haven’t learned.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1370 "2023-01-06T00:00:21Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Somebody just had a bunch of pizzas delivered. Don’t know where they came from.

[Comet Ping Pong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory)?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1371 "2023-01-06T00:08:39Z")

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Is there an idea as to why they are just doing these repeated votes one after the other? Are the McCarthy supporters hoping to wear someone down? Is there any way of viewing this that doesn’t look stupid?

Whatever resolution the main body of Rs are hoping for, I don’t see how just voting again will get them there.

I ask, because whatever you think of these sleazy fucks, one thing they ARE good at is maneuvering in their personal interest. And I just don’t see what they are up to here.

Could the main body of Rs solidify behind an R who might get sufficient support from the 20? Or will the 20 refuse to vote for anyone outside their circle of insanity?

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1372 "2023-01-06T00:10:55Z")

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The only actions they can take are roll call vote or adjourn. Have there been any motions to adjourn?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1373 "2023-01-06T00:11:48Z")

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I wonder if Trump is sitting there watching C-SPAN, waiting for more Trump votes to come in…

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1374 "2023-01-06T00:12:46Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Is there an idea as to why they are just doing these repeated votes one after the other?

Because they can’t do any other House business without first electing a Speaker.

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_Welcome back my friends  
to the vote that never ends.  
We’re so glad you could attend  
Come inside! Come inside_

Anyone else continue this? I’m not very good at parody lyrics.

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**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1375 "2023-01-06T00:13:16Z")

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The rumor apparently is they’re basically killing time while Emmer/McHenry and various of the holdouts review a deal they’ve worked out. Fox News is reporting that McHenry says “an agreement has been written and is currently being pored over by McCarthy’s side and members of the House Freedom Caucus.”

The McCarthy team probably doesn’t have the votes to adjourn, or at least can’t be certain of it.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1376 "2023-01-06T00:13:54Z")

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Earlier speculation on CNN was that McCarthy doesn’t even have enough votes for an adjournment. The 20 « rebel Republicans » want to make it clear that he has no power over them, and the Dems are operating in the principle « Never interrupt your enemy when he’s shooting himself in the foot. »

In summary, the guy who wants to be in charge of the House can’t even muster the votes for an adjournment.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1377 "2023-01-06T00:14:48Z")

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If they get to a written agreement, I wonder if they will read it into the record before the next vote (as was done in 1923)?

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1378 "2023-01-06T00:14:52Z")

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> [@slash2k](#):
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> The rumor apparently is they’re basically killing time while Emmer/McHenry and various of the holdouts review a deal they’ve worked out. Fox News is reporting that McHenry says “an agreement has been written and is currently being pored over by McCarthy’s side and members of the House Freedom Caucus.”
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> The McCarthy team probably doesn’t have the votes to adjourn, or at least can’t be certain of it.

They said a similar thing last night about Chip Roy having a deal to bring 10 of the Never Kevin’s on board. We all know where that went.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1379 "2023-01-06T00:16:01Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I wonder if Trump is sitting there watching C-SPAN

I very much doubt he watches that channel.

Oops, I’m wrong, reportedly if he’s extremely bored he will watch it.

> **[Trump gives random shout-out to C-SPAN caller who praised trade deal](https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/trump-gives-shout-out-to-c-span-caller-who-lauded-trade-deal/)**
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> The president tweeted an unprecedented shout-out Saturday to Jim, a mill worker from Grand Forks, N.D., who rang up the network’s “Washington Journal” program to praise Trump for …

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**Author:** ![pendgwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@pendgwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pendgwen)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1380 "2023-01-06T00:19:34Z")

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It looked like George Santos just walked out of the chamber with MTG. I wonder what’s going on there.

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