# House Speaker Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1381 "2023-01-06T00:24:45Z")
He doesn’t have the votes to adjourn. Who are the 11 others? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1382 "2023-01-06T00:25:22Z")
> **[New Congress live updates: What's next after Kevin McCarthy's speakership win](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-congress-live-updates-mccarthy-loses-10th-speaker-vote-a-post-civil-war-first/ar-AA15VfvF?cvid=6d1f4c2957d74fc38bfb9cfcc8b53486)** > > The next House speaker had to be elected before the new Congress could be sworn in, with Republicans in the House majority and Democrats in the Senate majority. He lost 10 times. How many bites at the apple does he get??? Do they just keep calling for votes until someone finally says ‘all right???’ That is not an election. This system is broken. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1383 "2023-01-06T00:28:37Z")
He gets as many bites as his supporters want, unless and until someone else gets a majority of votes cast. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1384 "2023-01-06T00:29:30Z")
This all should have been worked out within the Republican caucus ahead of time. McCarthy must have hoped that enough of his opposition would wither in the spotlight, so he took a chance. He chose poorly. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1385 "2023-01-06T00:30:19Z")
Usually the question regarding truant members or factions of political parties is: “Is it better to have them inside the tent pissing out, or outside the tent pissing in?” The truculent objectors approach is: “we don’t want your stinking tent, we wouldn’t piss on it if it were on fire … and we’ve just set it on fire, anyway.” Is there anything these guys agree on or is it simply they disagree on on principle? If they back down now, do they fear they’ll get primaried? ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1386 "2023-01-06T00:31:07Z")
For anyone watching CSPAN, just a minute ago the non-McCarthy R vote was 21. Now the scoreboard is gone again. Was there another defector or did the tally get screwed up? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1387 "2023-01-06T00:31:45Z")
> [@pendgwen](#): > > It looked like George Santos just walked out of the chamber with MTG. I wonder what’s going on there. Well, they were married at one time, according to his bio. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1388 "2023-01-06T00:32:23Z")
NY Times says that it’s 200 McCarthy, 212 Jeffries, 1 Present, 20 others. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1389 "2023-01-06T00:32:34Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > He gets as many bites as his supporters want, unless and until someone else gets a majority of votes cast. This. If you look at the 1923 data I posted earlier, you see a similar pattern - two days of pretty much the same vote distribution over eight ballots before an agreement was made and the Speaker was elected on the first ballot on the third day. The insurgents got the deal in writing and read into the Congressional Record. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1390 "2023-01-06T00:33:54Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > For anyone watching CSPAN, just a minute ago the non-McCarthy R vote was 21. Now the scoreboard is gone again. Was there another defector or did the tally get screwed up? Might be a technical thing. CNN is showing 21 non-McCarthy votes. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1391 "2023-01-06T00:35:19Z")
Did this man just call cnn the Clinton news network and the anchor young lady?!? ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1392 "2023-01-06T00:35:23Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > CNN is showing 21 non-McCarthy votes Including the “present”? Must be a glitch they had 21 and also the “present” for 22 total. ETA CSPAN fixed their scorecard. Back to 20 defectors, 1 present. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1393 "2023-01-06T00:36:02Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Including the “present”? Must be a glitch they had 21 and also the “present” for 22 total. Ah. No, CNN’s 21 includes the “present.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1394 "2023-01-06T00:38:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > The Freedom Caucus is showing that they have no interest in being part of the GOP anymore. And, absurdly, I think they could actually make a go at creating a legitimate voting bloc as a legitimate third party because I don’t think it’s out of the question for them to get re-elected as members of a “Freedom Party.” Especially if they could convince Trump to come with. Why bother going to the trouble of creating a 3rd party? They just keep running as Republicans in the GOP primaries, win that, and win in the general. That way, they don’t have to run as « Freedom Party » against a GOP candidate. They just describe themselves as « True Republicans » or something. Once elected, they don’t have to do anything to support the mainstream Republicans in the House. A former Congressman was being interviewed this afternoon on CNN and said that all of the 20 come from very strong GOP seats, so there’s little chance they’ll be defeated in the general. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1395 "2023-01-06T00:39:15Z")
The Hill has a chart of how many rounds it took (greater than 1) to elect the Speaker. There’s a large clump of 2s and 3s, a gap, a second group in the 9-12 range. After that the numbers start to grow pretty quickly with no particular clustering: 22, 44, 63, and 133 Based on history, that seems to say that if it goes past 12, it really could be anything. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1396 "2023-01-06T00:39:40Z")
According to CNN: Jeffries - 212 McCarthy - 200 Hern - 7 Trump - 1 Other - 12 Present - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1397 "2023-01-06T00:40:04Z")
Trump explains why fantasizing about winning after suffering repeated humiliating and ass-kicking epic losses is better than the more traditional route to victory of, you know….winning. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/SSkX9xp.png?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/T7O25jb) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1398 "2023-01-06T00:42:12Z")
I read that thing twice and still don’t understand what point he thinks he’s making. I gues I’m just not enough of a 3-D chess afficianado. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1399 "2023-01-06T00:42:58Z")
The toxic waste has eaten through the barrel and there is no bottom. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1400 "2023-01-06T00:43:36Z")
“If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”??? But then I never considered patience as a Trumpian virtue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=71)