# House Speaker Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1401 "2023-01-06T00:43:37Z")
Adjournment vote next. Dems want NO. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1402 "2023-01-06T00:43:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I read that thing twice and still don’t understand what point he thinks he’s making. > > I gues I’m just not enough of a 3-D chess afficianado. I think he’s saying that a victory with many dramatic moments, a lot of back and forth, and a game winning score as the clock hits 00:00 is a “better” victory than one where the favorite team cruises to an easy victory. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1403 "2023-01-06T00:44:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I read that thing twice and still don’t understand what point he thinks he’s making. The way I’m reading it is that he starts by talking about the Speaker’s election and the multiple votes; and then as usual, veers off into talking about how great he is. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1404 "2023-01-06T00:47:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Why bother going to the trouble of creating a 3rd party? They just keep running as Republicans in the GOP primaries, win that, and win in the general. That way, they don’t have to run as « Freedom Party » against a GOP candidate. They just describe themselves as « True Republicans » or something. Oh, I don’t think they’ll split. You’re right that there’s no upside to it. I’m just positing that they **could** if they wanted. That the conditions are right for a not-insignificant number of third-party representatives to get elected to Congress in 2024. Maybe the largest bloc of 'em in American history. It’s crazy. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1405 "2023-01-06T00:48:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > > Why bother going to the trouble of creating a 3rd party? They just keep running as Republicans in the GOP primaries, win that, and win in the general. That way, they don’t have to run as « Freedom Party » against a GOP candidate. They just describe themselves as « True Republicans » or something. > > Oh, I don’t think they’ll split. You’re right that there’s no upside to it. > > I’m just positing that they **could** if they wanted. That the conditions are right for a not-insignificant number of third-party representatives to get elected to Congress in 2024. Maybe the largest bloc in American history. It’s crazy. The biggest obstacle they would face is that they’re clearly not united in anything other than opposing McCarthy. They keep nominating different people for their protest vote, they are making different demands, and so on. They seem to have little in common other than that they don’t want Kevin. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1406 "2023-01-06T00:49:18Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I read that thing twice and still don’t understand what point he thinks he’s making. Trump thinks in terms of visuals and story, not logic. Think, for example, of a comic book where you’ve got people running around in colorful, form-fitting stretchy clothing, that couldn’t possibly have any protective qualities, punching each other despite having super powers and living in an age of projectile weapons. It doesn’t make _sense_ but it’s _visually appealing and emotionally meaningful_. If you were watching a movie about a guy who is cheated out of a win but then comes back a second time and clinches it, that’s more dramatic than if he just got it without any fuss, the first time. There’s no deeper meaning than that. It’s a more interesting tale. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1407 "2023-01-06T00:50:51Z")
Pretty sure that, in the end, whoever wins will have promised 218 people 872 seats on 109 committees. The roars of betrayal will be glorious… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1408 "2023-01-06T00:51:30Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > and then as usual, veers off into talking about how great he is. Yes. He’s implying now _ **his** _ comeback will look even greater. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1409 "2023-01-06T00:52:09Z")
Gavel is sounded. Reading tally. Donalds got 12. Calling for adjourn. Yeas and nays are going to be tallied. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1410 "2023-01-06T00:52:18Z")
The Chair just read the vote tallies. Applause for Jeffries, applause for McCarthy, somewhat less applause for Hern and Donalds. When she said, “Donald J. Trump, of the state of Florida, one,” there was laughter louder than any applause Trump did get. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1411 "2023-01-06T00:53:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Pretty sure that, in the end, whoever wins will have promised 218 people 872 seats on 109 committees. > > The roars of betrayal will be glorious… Oh my god, you nailed it. McCarthy is pulling a “_The Producers!_” He’s trying to cash out! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1412 "2023-01-06T00:54:05Z")
Donald Trump lost three elections today. What did we do to deserve this bountiful munificence, obviously of Divine origin? 🙏 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1413 "2023-01-06T00:57:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Donald Trump lost three elections today. His career ending, as it should have begun, as a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1414 "2023-01-06T00:59:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Donald Trump lost three elections today. “Rigged elections!!1!!!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1415 "2023-01-06T01:00:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Oh my god, you nailed it. McCarthy is pulling a “_The Producers!_” He’s trying to cash out! “Oh, you wanted Ways & _Means_? Sorry, I put you on Ways & _Memes_. I must have misheard!” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1416 "2023-01-06T01:00:43Z")
The adjournment vote so far seems succesfully going strictly party-line, no crossovers but one after it was clear it would pass. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1417 "2023-01-06T01:05:27Z")
There’s one Republican nay. I bet it’s Matt Gaetz. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1418 "2023-01-06T01:08:16Z")
Looks like adjournment. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1419 "2023-01-06T01:10:26Z")
Tomorrow, same batshit-hour, same batshit-channel. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1420 "2023-01-06T01:12:54Z")
Second time in two days they were able to vote to adjourn. They’re getting good at the voting thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=72)