# House Speaker Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1601 "2023-01-06T18:02:48Z")
He’d need hardliner votes (or abstention) to pass _that_, though. The Dems won’t give it to him. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1602 "2023-01-06T18:04:03Z")
The maths for today is possible 216 for the win. McCarthy can only lose 3 for an outright win. McCarthy is picking up the ones who are not in the never Kevin camp. This vote will give a good idea of who is the never Kevin crew. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1603 "2023-01-06T18:04:26Z")
Picking up most of the rebels now, “pending good faith negotiations” as one put it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1604 "2023-01-06T18:05:40Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Gaetz was casting McCarthy as entitled and not worthy of being speaker. He’s not wrong… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1605 "2023-01-06T18:07:39Z")
Which really gets us back to where those of us who expected a loggerheads were thinking it would be: five true Nevers who have no incentive to be a not never ever. But “progress” and “trend” will prolong the process, delaying their achieving the goal of getting McCarthy to step down. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1606 "2023-01-06T18:08:00Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > AOC and other progressive members are in the news frequently. They are a small faction. But sometimes they gave Pelosi trouble. Ah. That’s your definition of “extremists dictating policy.” Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1607 "2023-01-06T18:08:09Z")
I see the “Kevin…Hern” joke hasn’t gotten stale for some. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1608 "2023-01-06T18:09:18Z")
Reporting is hern is in the building. That changes the math a bit. McCarthy still loses this round. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1609 "2023-01-06T18:09:29Z")
They just “got it” Not fast on the uptake… ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1610 "2023-01-06T18:10:02Z")
Not this time. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1611 "2023-01-06T18:11:53Z")
Down to seven hold outs. That’s actually much better than I thought McCarthy would do. Several of the crossovers look disgusted with their capitulation, though. Will they hold fast? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1612 "2023-01-06T18:12:10Z")
McCarthy picked up 12 votes. I would not bet on it. Some clarified as pending. The winning number if all are in the chamber is 217. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1613 "2023-01-06T18:12:30Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Maybe the House should adopt a rule like the Baseball Hall of Fame. If you don’t get 5 percent of the votes on your first ballot, you’re out. This is basically how party leadership conventions work in Canada. This prevents the votes from simply repeating themselves over and over and over again. So that an actual decision is finally made. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1614 "2023-01-06T18:12:43Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Picking up most of the rebels now, “pending good faith negotiations” as one put it. I would be so pissed if I were loyal McCarthyite from day 1 but he gave the plum assignments to the FC members that switched to him. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1615 "2023-01-06T18:14:20Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I would be so pissed if I were loyal McCarthyite from day 1 but he gave the plum assignments to the FC members that switched to him. Absolutely! He’s rewarding their bad behavior and punishing the loyal. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1616 "2023-01-06T18:14:40Z")
I imagine some of the McCarthy votes this round are posturing. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1617 "2023-01-06T18:18:47Z")
Gosar voted McC and left the room looking like he’s going out to hang himself… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1618 "2023-01-06T18:19:06Z")
He always looks like that. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1619 "2023-01-06T18:21:10Z")
One democrat is not in chamber. First time McCarthy got more votes than Jeffries. Now they need to decide if they adjourn or go to the next vote. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1620 "2023-01-06T18:21:33Z")
McCarthy now has a plurality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770.md?page=82)