# House Speaker Contest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770 "2022-11-12T00:48:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1841 "2023-01-07T04:20:28Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Were I voting on the D side, this time around I’d support a motion to adjourn till Monday. Not only does that give McQarthy a weekend to seethe, but the idea of him winning the Speaker election on the anniversary of the insurrection turns my stomach.

I’d vote to keep going tonight. I want to see actual fisticuffs.

Regarding the moral objection, before the next round of voting is over it will be January 7.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1842 "2023-01-07T04:22:24Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> I’d vote to keep going tonight. I want to see actual fisticuffs.

Don’t they have bells in Congress, to call members to their chamber? We’ve got the bells, we’ve got the contestants, now, all we need is a referee.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1843 "2023-01-07T04:22:49Z")

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And McCarthy is on the naughty list, no Christmas pressie for him.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1844 "2023-01-07T04:24:43Z")

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I think adjourning until Monday may be a dangerous move for McCarthy. Sure, it gives him time to try to tease out that one last vote. But it also sends all of the Representatives back to their home districts, where conservatives may get pummeled for having switched to McCarthy and moderates may get pummeled for agreeing to the rule changes. Any break that lets members rethink their position is a risk.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1845 "2023-01-07T04:25:36Z")

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So why did the votes that McCarthy believe he had rescind?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1846 "2023-01-07T04:26:57Z")

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That’s the million dollar question.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1847 "2023-01-07T04:27:25Z")

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Because McCarthy is dumb. He’s no Pelosi when it comes to counting votes. They probably said something noncommittal and he took that for a yes. My guess, anyway.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1848 "2023-01-07T04:27:48Z")

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Who knows. This is why this man should not be speaker. Cnn is showing the lunge over and over.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1849 "2023-01-07T04:27:59Z")

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Or they just lied to his face.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1850 "2023-01-07T04:28:23Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Just when you think things couldn’t get more nuts…
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> That video of McCarthy pleading with Gaetz was incredible.

It certainly was. The person who I’m wondering about is the bearded congressman that was sitting to Lauren Boebert’s left. He looked like he didn’t want to be there at all.

The body language seemed to me like Boebert was acting as Gaetz’s bodyguard 🤣.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1851 "2023-01-07T04:28:39Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> They probably said something noncommittal and he took that for a yes.

At the very least for that he for sure had one more “present” which _would_ have dropped the threshold to 216.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1852 "2023-01-07T04:28:47Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> So why did the votes that McCarthy believe he had rescind?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Because McCarthy is dumb.

Yup, that’s it.

He just got played by Matt Freakin’ Gaetz (and maybe Rosendale).

No smart person or strong leader would ever have this happen to them.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1853 "2023-01-07T04:29:38Z")

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This motion to adjourn is gonna be close.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1854 "2023-01-07T04:30:08Z")

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Oh, man, he is about to lose adjournment.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1855 "2023-01-07T04:30:58Z")

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As much as I disagree with Rosendale’s politics, he’s the only Pub that I think might have the ability to be Speaker.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1856 "2023-01-07T04:31:06Z")

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Nah, it’s just the 4 others right now, right? We know Geatz wants the adjournment. I would assume Boebert does too.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1857 "2023-01-07T04:31:36Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> It wouldn’t be the first time a physical altercation occurred. In 1856, Preston Brooks of South Carolina clobbered Charles Sumner of Massachusetts with in cane in a slavery debate in the Senate.

That’s so long ago it was _before_ it became the style to wear an onion on one’s belt.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1858 "2023-01-07T04:31:38Z")

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211 to 215 so far to adjourn

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1859 "2023-01-07T04:32:51Z")

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Barely adjourned. BARELY.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-speaker-contest/974770/1860 "2023-01-07T04:33:10Z")

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If Gaetz openly lied or broke a promise, then it’s still on McCarthy’s dumbness - he went forward with a margin so tight that he needed to rely on a scumbag like Gaetz.

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