# "House to start an impeachment inquiry into President Biden" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 12, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995 "2023-09-12T16:17:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/221 "2023-09-17T22:53:03Z")
> Chairman Comer has publicly stated that the alleged financial wrongdoing that > Committee Republicans are investigating, including the SARs, implicate “the entire [Biden] > family.”13 However, none of the SARs reviewed by Committee staff allege, or even suggest, any potential misconduct by President Biden, nor do they show President Biden’s involvement in Hunter Biden’s financial or business relationships. from that earlier cited Raskin memo: > **[As the House Returns to Session, Ranking Member Raskin Releases Statement on...](https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/as-the-house-returns-to-session-ranking-member-raskin-releases-statement-on-the)** > > Washington, D.C. (September 11, 2023)—Today, Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, released the following statement on the status of Republicans’ failed investigation of President Biden as the House... Comer keeps trying to equate “the Biden family” with Joe. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/222 "2023-09-17T22:54:50Z")
I think there is evidence enough to open an inquiry. For one thing, Joe Biden lied repearedly about his knowledge of Hunter’s business deals. He has claimed that he’s never spoken to his son about business, that he’s never met or talked to any of Hunter’s clients or partners, that there was an absolute wall between him and Hunter’s business. We know now that he met with Hunter’s business partners many times, that he met with clients, that he was on 20 phpone calls with clients, that he allowed hunter to ride along on Air Force Two to business meetings with foreign companies, etc. Joe Biden maintained at least three pseudonymous email accounts that he used when dealing with Hunter and his partners. Devon Archer testified that they were selling ‘the brand’, and the brand was Joe Biden. The Biden family received millions of dollars through multiple accounts in small pieces, spread around at least nine family members. This could be straight-up tax evasion by Hunter, or it could be a means to hide transfers from foreign powers, or maybe there’s an innocent explanation. That’s what investigations are for. But if any investigator found a family being paid off this way through multiple small payments through a collection of 20 different LLCs, they’d sure as hell investigate just on that alone. It reeks of at least money laundering or tax evasion. Whether it is or not - that’s what investigations are for. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/223 "2023-09-17T22:57:01Z")
We don’t know any of these things (none of which you have cited). These are, once again, lies from dishonest Republican representatives. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/224 "2023-09-17T22:57:43Z")
You know, just asserting “Them people is LIARS!” is not the slam dunk you think it is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/225 "2023-09-17T22:58:47Z")
When you offer zero cites, and cites you linked earlier were demonstrated to be dishonest or otherwise inaccurate, you can’t possibly expect us to just accept your uncited claims about the Bidens. If you’re gonna make claims about the Bidens, link to the SPECIFIC documents, and the SPECIFIC words, you think support these claims. Otherwise you’re offering nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/226 "2023-09-17T23:01:33Z")
You’re moving too fast for me. I do _not_ agree with the proposition, if you are making it, that - If there is evidence that President Biden lied about his knowledge of or involvement in his son’s affairs, the House should open an impeachment inquiry. Nor do I agree that evidence of pseudonymous email accounts is sufficient. If you have the patience, could you please try and take it one step at a time, and start with a proposition we can agree on? This is the final argument form I’m looking for, 1. If there is evidence that President Biden [insert term here], then the House should open an impeachment inquiry. 2. This link provides evidence that President Biden [insert term here]: [insert link to evidence] 3. Therefore, the House should open an impeachment inquiry. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/227 "2023-09-17T23:04:45Z")
It’s suppertime here. I’ll provide more info later. But you know, it’s all easily available out there. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/228 "2023-09-17T23:06:22Z")
Enjoy your meal. I look forward to being enlightened. 🙂 ~Max ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/229 "2023-09-17T23:06:41Z")
No it’s not. Republican lies are easily available, but the actual facts do not support their assertions. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/230 "2023-09-17T23:08:42Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > just asserting “Them people is LIARS!” is not the slam dunk you think it is. Just quoting a deluded congressman isn’t the slam dunk **you** think it is. > [@](#): > > I want to go back to where we were in January when we started this investigation. **This was the narrative** : the President’s son’s laptop was Russian disinformation; **Hunter Biden was a legitimate business guy, just like Jared Kushner** ; No Biden ever took money from China — that’s what Joe Biden said; No money ever changed hands while Joe Biden was Vice President; Joe knew nothing about his son’s dealings; And Joe never met with or spoke with any of the foreign nationals who had wired the family money. > > All of those things have been proven wrong because of the Republican majority and our investigation. > > What exactly do these companies do? What good or service do these companies provide? The answer is nothing. They are not legitimate companies. > > We found 170 major bank violations. These were from six major banks, and they alleged that the Bidens were, among other things, money laundering, and receiving suspicious wires from state-owned entities. […] The bank is alleging that the Bidens took a suspicious wire from the Chinese government, and then laundered it through these shell companies. Many laws were broken there.” > > **We also learned nine Biden family members have received money from foreign entities, including the President’s granddaughter, who received a wire that had been laundered to the shell companies from Romania days after the President left Romania when he was Vice President**. That’s hard to explain. > > The Bidens received over 20 million dollars. My question to you: What did they do to receive that money? No one can answer that question. (My emphasis- isn’t the shout out to Jared Kushner so adorable? Ivanka must be so proud. A big man said he was legitimate) > **[Comer: Oversight Committee Has Uncovered Mounting Evidence Tying Joe Biden to...](https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-oversight-committee-has-uncovered-mounting-evidence-tying-joe-biden-to-family-business-schemes/)** > > United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/231 "2023-09-17T23:09:00Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > But you know, it’s all easily available out there. @Sam_Stone , you need to back that up. I’m reading this thread as an outside observer and if it was easy, you would have provided the links. But yes, enjoy dinner. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/232 "2023-09-17T23:09:37Z")
Devon Archer also testified that business was never discussed with Joe. “The Biden family” is not Joe. There is no evidence that Joe received any of that money. The LLC’s were not shell companies; they were set up to handle these no-evidence-they-were-illegal payments. The Trump family has dozens, if not hundreds, of LLC’s set up. You are inferring that business was discussed despite testimony to the contrary, but no evidence of any such discussions have been offered. Supposition is not grounds for an investigation. Devon Archer and Hunter may well have implied connections that did not exist to sell their business. Unless the is actually something to suggest such a connection existed, it is innuendo. This is the Fox “News” playbook: a string of supposition and implications to tailor a narrative of malfeasance while implying, but never presenting, purported damning evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/233 "2023-09-18T00:36:19Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > What do you think I missed? Based on your summary, it seems like a lot. Did we read the same cite? It was quite lengthy and basically addressed and debunked the stuff you’re relying on as evidence. It was the first Rankin link in the thread. That cite and yours cannot be reconciled. Somebody is lying, either the details provided in the cite I mentioned or your sources. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/234 "2023-09-18T00:43:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Remember the Hunter Biden Laptop? A lot of this information was there, and it was hidden from the American people. You could get banned on social media for mentioning it. None of this happened. Not hidden. No one was banned from social media for mentioning it. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/235 "2023-09-18T00:46:17Z")
@Sam_Stone, this cite, just for the avoidance of any possible confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/236 "2023-09-18T01:28:24Z")
A small note: “selling the brand of Joe Biden” isn’t unusual or a crime, so why keep mentioning it? That’s also just innuendo, as others have said. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/237 "2023-09-18T01:32:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Joe Biden maintained at least three pseudonymous email accounts Gosh, I too have three email accounts, all of which are under pseudonyms, not my real name. My God, I must be a criminal! Lock me up! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/238 "2023-09-18T02:46:37Z")
I bet they are Eddy, Teddy, and Freddy. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/239 "2023-09-18T02:51:09Z")
No, those are the cats’ email pseudonyms. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/240 "2023-09-18T03:13:21Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Hunter and associates had 170 filed against them. Seems like a lot, but maybe not. Did you miss the part where Congressman Raskin’s memo points out that many of the 170 SARs were filed in response to media reports about Hunter or Vice President Biden, or some of Hunter Biden’s business associates? In other words, media coverage of unfounded accusations about the Biden family creates SARs about financial transactions involving the Biden family, which then are used to create new unfounded accusations. How many of these are in this category? The Raskin memo doesn’t say, but certainly Comer hasn’t either. I’ve gotta admire the self-licking ice cream cone aspect of it, but as far as finding out the quote truth of the matter unquote, the sheer number of SARs and the comparison to how many the “average American” generates is pretty specious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995.md?page=13)