# "House to start an impeachment inquiry into President Biden"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 12, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995 "2023-09-12T16:17:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/41 "2023-09-13T00:46:01Z")

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Corruption! People are saying Biden profited from his position of power by funneling official government business to his hotel. Oh, wait!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/42 "2023-09-13T01:14:45Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Impeach him for what, exactly? Something something laptop something?

There are some details here:

> **[What’s the basis of the Republicans’ Joe Biden impeachment inquiry?](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/why-have-us-republicans-opened-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-joe-biden-2023-09-12/)**
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> Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives hold their first hearing on Thursday in an impeachment inquiry into Democratic President Joe Biden after months of investigations of his son Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings. They have not...

> Republicans allege that Biden’s son Hunter has profited in business dealings with foreign entities by arranging access to then-Vice President Biden. They also allege that the president himself has profited.
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> Separately, they also say that the Justice Department interfered with investigations into Hunter Biden’s taxes. U.S. Special Counsel David Weiss, who is leading that investigation, denies that charge.

So nothing, really, but it’s the same old boring nothing. Supposedly Hunter Biden got a lot of money by granting people in foreign countries access to his dad, and then split it with Joe. Basically, they are saying Hunter did what Jared Kushner is actually on record doing for the Saudis, except there is no evidence anything happened, unlike what is publicly known about what Kushner did (and was never investigated for, as far as I know).

Also, the fact that Hunter wasn’t given the death penalty or at least life in prison for a couple of misdemeanor charges, one involving a non-payment of taxes he admitted to and eventually paid, and another for a gun possession charge that is rarely ever prosecuted but Hunter got nailed for anyway. Well, that can’t stand, Hunter needs to pay, as the first step in bringing down the Biden Crime Family that is totally not something Donald Trump made up as a desperate deflection from his family’s own misdeeds.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/43 "2023-09-13T01:38:22Z")

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If all they can find is that he used a handkerchief made in China when he blew his nose then, by ghod, that will be used to impeach him.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/44 "2023-09-13T02:09:37Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Buck, however, predicted that McCarthy would ultimately hold onto his speakership, despite those challenges, due to the lack of people willing to step up and take his job.

In fairness, McCarthy is making a great case to the rest of the world that they shouldn’t want his job.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/45 "2023-09-13T02:26:46Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> If I were president, and thank Og I’m not, I’d say let’s go ahead and have the Senate vote on it.

Saw this and thought it sums this up:

> **[https://preview.redd.it/212b1181ewnb1.jpg?auto=webp&s=0fcb7f0536bb097d50fd41...](https://preview.redd.it/212b1181ewnb1.jpg?auto=webp&s=0fcb7f0536bb097d50fd41a347688a18f7ab6132)**

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/46 "2023-09-13T02:56:29Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> So they are going to try to fire him from his current job for something he did at a previous job? Is that even a thing?

You might look into the case of Spiro Agnew, former vice-president under Nixon. He was NOT involved in Watergate. But he would probably have been impeached (if he hadn’t resigned) for taking kickbacks from contractors during his time as Baltimore County Executive and Governor of Maryland.

> **[Spiro Agnew](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Agnew)**
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> Spiro Theodore Agnew (November 9, 1918 – September 17, 1996) was the 39th vice president of the United States, serving from 1969 until his resignation in 1973. He is the second of two vice presidents to resign the position, the first being John C. Calhoun in 1832.
> Agnew was born in Baltimore to a Greek immigrant father and an American mother. He attended Johns Hopkins University and graduated from the University of Baltimore School of Law. He worked as an aide to U.S. Representative James De...

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/47 "2023-09-13T03:39:06Z")

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Exactly! Here is Fetterman mocking McCarthy’s impeachment announcement…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZS7AF2mgEYQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Senator mocks McCarthy's impeachment announcement") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS7AF2mgEYQ)

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/48 "2023-09-13T04:25:48Z")

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Actually if you read a bit further in the Wikipedia article you linked you would see it was alleged the payments continued into his time as vice-president. From the section about the investigation of Agnew,

> (Lester) Matz was prepared to testify that he had met with Agnew at the White House and given him $10,000 in cash

So yes, while most of this took place before Agnew was Veep the payoffs continued into his time in Federal office.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/49 "2023-09-13T12:37:19Z")

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Biden needs two headlines to break through the many-months-old tie in his race against Trump (assuming Trump gets the nomination).

This one, on the day a Trump jury comes back:

[GUILTY!](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/184277186/photo/guilty-newspaper-headline.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=U9bPPvWICJaQj-XzZOggfmF06R4B30uEA2xHPW3LdRo=)

And this one on the day the Senate votes on Biden’s impeachment:

[ACQUITTED](https://gdb.voanews.com/38221544-c5e5-4570-99d2-62b91f148633_w1200_r1.jpg)

I suspect House Republicans aren’t dumb enough to do their part, but we’ll see.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/50 "2023-09-13T12:40:01Z")

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This is like Alice in Wonderland- There are no charges! Prove your innocence!

They got nothing, they know they got nothing, they’re just playing to an audience of one sitting in Maralardo.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/51 "2023-09-13T12:40:15Z")

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Yeah, given today’s electorate, those headlines would definitely put Trump ahead.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/52 "2023-09-13T12:48:53Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> This could very well backfire on them.

Or him. Three hours ago:

> **[McCarthy faces threat as US House speaker despite impeachment move](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mccarthy-faces-threat-us-house-speaker-despite-impeachment-move-2023-09-12/)**
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> U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy will confront a fractured caucus on Wednesday, with his role as the top Republican in Congress under threat from the far right, despite giving hardline conservatives the impeachment inquiry they wanted.

> Representative Matt Gaetz again raised the possibility of ousting McCarthy under the terms of a deal he agreed to become speaker, which gave any one member the power to call a vote for his removal.
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> Gaetz said the speaker could face multiple votes on motions to “vacate the chair” for failing to comply with a secret agreement that allowed him to become speaker in January.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/53 "2023-09-13T12:52:14Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> I guess that is flip flopper came to the same conclusion. “Never mind what i said yesterday, were having an inquiry starting now.”

That appears to be what he said, sure. [Nothing about impeachment on the schedule for today](https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity/2023-09-13) – maybe in two weeks? 😉

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/54 "2023-09-13T13:45:32Z")

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Yeah, they said they wanted “Impeachment” not an “Impeachment _Inquiry_” - c’mon, Kev, get it right, or get out of the way!

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/55 "2023-09-13T13:50:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Gaetz said the speaker could face multiple votes on motions to “vacate the chair” for failing to comply with a secret agreement that allowed him to become speaker in January.

I’ve been hearing that McCarthy agreed to the impeachment inquiry as part of the agreement he made to become speaker. I wonder why Gaetz is now suggesting that McCarthy broke the agreement.

I suppose that’s the beauty of a secret agreement. It’s interesting to watch the Republicans to follow through on this agreement without admitting what’s in it.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/56 "2023-09-13T13:51:36Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> This is like rabbit starvation for Republicans - they just want to eat red meat and nothing else of substance, and may suffer consequences at the ballot.

Stealing this metaphor.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/57 "2023-09-13T13:54:31Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’ve been hearing that McCarthy agreed to the impeachment inquiry as part of the agreement he made to become speaker. I wonder why Gaetz is now suggesting that McCarthy broke the agreement.

There’s some pretty deep cracks in the facade of the Republican party as they seem to lack anything resembling strong leadership. We’ve got one the weakest speakers in history and what other Republican is going to fill that roll? MTG perhaps?

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@snowthx](#):
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> > This is like rabbit starvation for Republicans - they just want to eat red meat and nothing else of substance, and may suffer consequences at the ballot.
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> Stealing this metaphor.

[Rabbit starvation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning) is caused by a diet of very lean meat. Exclusively eating red meat is unhealthy but it won’t kill you as fast as exclusively eating lean meat. The fat in red meat would stave of protein poisoning and let you live much longer until deficiencies kill you.

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Or him. Three hours ago:

Well, I did say:

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It might further divide the party itself, though.

It’s happening faster than I expected for sure. 😆

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-to-start-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden/989995/60 "2023-09-13T14:59:56Z")

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What are they impeaching him for, and on what grounds?

(I know it’s contrived BS political theatre and there’s nothing behind it, but something will have to be read into the record, and I’m wondering exactly what the story is supposed to be here).

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