# How about that Illuminati? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 20, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549 "2003-08-20T23:24:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/81 "2003-08-29T16:10:37Z")
Fact- there was an Illuminati organization Fact- it operated through European Masonic lodges as well as other groups Fact- there are religious &, by some definitions, occultic elements to Freemasonry that many religionists have regarded as inconsistent to their own beliefs. vanilla- whew! to your most recent post. Have you read RULE BY SECRECY by Jim Marrs? the A Ralph Epperson book you referred to earlier may be THE UNSEEN HAND or THE NEW WORLD ORDER. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/82 "2003-08-29T16:16:35Z")
Yes, read all 3 of those books. Thanks for your information and understanding. If all posters were like you… ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/83 "2003-08-29T16:46:53Z")
Awwwwww! _blushing & stubbing toe in the dirt_ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/84 "2003-08-29T21:04:51Z")
The New World Order? Hah! ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/85 "2003-08-29T22:04:52Z")
Be careful, lady, please? You nearly lost yourself a lunch date, there. Remember what Christ said about what goes into the body versus what goes into the heart in Matthew 15. I personally extend heart to cover mind as well. Peace, CJ ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/86 "2003-08-30T19:55:50Z")
What? You would’ve cancelled our lunch date if I still believed this stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_B.Phart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Capt\_B.Phart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_B.Phart)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/87 "2003-09-01T02:37:15Z")
Hee Hee Hee, Long ago and far away, I used to work with David Icke. Well, a couple of times, and “work with” is putting it a bit high, I was in the studio while he did his sports reporter bit. He’d been a goalkeeper, got injured (IIRC) and took up reporting (He still seems to sport the same mullet he had then judging by the pix on **Aro** ’s link.) He always seemed a tad odd, but no odder than many others in the biz, so it came as a bit of a shock to hear that he had declared himself to be the Messiah! (And a Messiah in a purple shell-suit, to boot) His predictions for the coming “End of World” scenario he had been sent to warn us of was impressively detailed, - It stuck in my mind that the first sign would be the disappearance of New Zealand on a particular date, which came and went. Now I’ve been in many Irish bars, in many different countries and the Kiwis behind the bar must be coming from somewhere 🙂 Anyway, after the world resolutely refused to stop spinning at its duly appointed hour, he disappeared for quite a time. Then, Bugger me! :eek: He turns up in America peddling some conspiracy thang, just as detailed as his messiah shtick, with lizards and pyramids and Masons out the Wazoo. Only _this_ time he’s careful not to mention any exact dates 😉 It seems to be his most lucrative career change yet. (Though I think some Jewish groups, seeing coded anti-Semitism in some of his ideas are trying to stop his tours and even sue him). 😃 Oh, and he likes purple. - A _ **lot** _ ---
**Author:** ![Sputnikkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Sputnikkk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sputnikkk)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/88 "2015-11-06T11:32:51Z")
> [@Shiva418](#): > > " **Tactical Thought** > > If I were the head of the Illuminati, I certainly would not call it by that name; I’d call it something innocuous, like the Parent-Teachers Association. Better still, I’d call it the John Birch Society, and advertise it as an organization _opposed_ to the Illuminati. That way I’d be able to rope in all the people who are against the Illuminati and use them as unwitting dupes. > > This is such a plausible idea that if the Illuminati do exist, they must have thought of it already." (from _Right Where You Are Sitting Now_ by Robert Anton Wilson, p. 57) This is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/89 "2015-11-06T12:26:50Z")
FYI, this thread is more than ten years old. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-that-illuminati/196549/90 "2015-11-06T12:27:19Z")
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