# How about them Moslems?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837 "2004-10-24T01:32:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/61 "2004-10-24T22:33:31Z")

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Fools all! Did you paid no attention to the media? The whole purpose of the invasion was for oil! Why, once the evil camel-hugging parasites were put under control, the big honking spigot was turned full on, which is why we have such an abundance that the futures market is ~ $3/bbl. 😛

Stay tuned. After station identification Peter Jennings will analyze the winged monkeys flying from my butt.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/62 "2004-10-24T22:54:20Z")

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> [@danceswithcats](#):
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> Stay tuned. After station identification Peter Jennings will analyze the winged monkeys flying from my butt.

Will there be footage of the flying monkeys dancing with you and your kitties? I’d like to see that!

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/63 "2004-10-24T23:18:44Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Will there be footage of the flying monkeys dancing with you and your kitties? I’d like to see that!

Coming to your cable network soon on PPV. Watch for it! 😉

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/64 "2004-10-24T23:36:37Z")

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> [@Blackacre](#):
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> How about them Moslems?

From this thread title, I was expecting a rant about some high school football team and its non-PC nickname.

They’d be one heck of a titanic struggle when the New York Fighting Jews meet them on the gridiron.

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> Fresh from too many Cosmopolitans…

Not a bad team name either, but I think there’s already been a soccer team called the “Cosmos”.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/65 "2004-10-25T03:58:14Z")

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I love this hijack… think we could get the whole thing to broadcast on FOX News?

As for **Blackacre** , I’d like him to come back and clarify his views on Muslims. If he’s not drunk.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/66 "2004-10-25T04:08:28Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Will there be footage of the flying monkeys dancing with you and your kitties? I’d like to see that!

Monkey butlers?

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/67 "2004-10-25T04:42:16Z")

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Just to get serious for a moment, wouldn’t you say _all_ religions are guilty of atrocities? Granted, Sept 11, 2001 was a ghastly surprise to everyone - but then again who could have guessed that Christianity would resort to something as brutal as the Spanish Inquisition? Who could have expected _that_?

:: patiently awaiting reply ::

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/68 "2004-10-25T04:46:50Z")

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> [@wolf\_meister](#):
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> who could have guessed that Christianity would resort to something as brutal as the Spanish Inquisition? Who could have expected _that_?
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> :: patiently awaiting reply ::

I daresay the Jews weren’t particularly surprised.

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**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/69 "2004-10-25T04:50:32Z")

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Keep in mind, **wolf\_meister** , not everyone reads the Monty Python requirement for this board.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/70 "2004-10-25T05:27:34Z")

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Or they read it and decide that shtick’s been done to death already.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/71 "2004-10-25T05:31:36Z")

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**EddyTeddyFreddy**  
Geez, I am sorry you took my posting seriously (even though I did say it was a serious posting didn’t I ???) Well, I was just setting up the stage for someone to come back with a Monty Python reply. And as Sample\_The\_Dog said, not everyone is conversant in the Monty Python genre.

Anyway Eddy, here is the explanation for my attempt at humor:  
[http://user.it.uu.se/~anli7609/inq/script\_tpi.txt](http://user.it.uu.se/~anli7609/inq/script_tpi.txt)

I tried to find a site that would explain it in not so many words, but it seems everybody likes to put the entire sketch on their website.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/72 "2004-10-25T05:36:12Z")

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**EddyTeddyFreddy**  
I typed all of that and looked for a cite and all the while, you came back with that reply?  
Geez.  
Sure it has been done to death but I felt this thread was going awry and I thought I’d add to the frivolity.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/73 "2004-10-25T05:38:05Z")

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mmm? **Wolf**? **Eddy** gets it. Re-read her reply. She simply expressed boredon with an overdone routine, (that appears on the SDMB at least weekly), by posting a factual reply when a “let’s all repeat the 30-year-old joke” reply was expected.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/74 "2004-10-25T05:40:39Z")

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This thread has not started going awry. It started awry and has been going wry ever since.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/75 "2004-10-25T05:58:29Z")

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**tomndebb**  
I was replying to Eddy’s posting #68 while, unbeknownst to me, Eddy had posted a later reply which I only saw after I had pressed the submit button and that is why you see another posting from me directly after my first one. I’d better stop this explanation before this thread goes (dare I say it?) awry.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/76 "2004-10-25T11:46:11Z")

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> [@wolf\_meister](#):
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> Just to get serious for a moment, wouldn’t you say _all_ religions are guilty of atrocities? Granted, Sept 11, 2001 was a ghastly surprise to everyone - but then again who could have guessed that Christianity would resort to something as brutal as the Spanish Inquisition? Who could have expected _that_?
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> :: patiently awaiting reply ::

To continue along these lines, in 250,000 B.C. the Tribe Across the Hills, followers of the Moon Spirit, killed some members of the Tribe in the Swamp, followers of the Sun Spirit, using sticks on their unarmed adversaries. In light of this, I don’t see how we can possibly criticize Muslims or anyone, or even engage in critical thought.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/77 "2004-10-25T11:48:52Z")

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Getting back on track…

The BBC is running a fascinating Documentary charting the rise of militant Arab radicalism (tellingly parallelling the rise of US neoconservatism) called url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1327904,00.html]The Power of Nightmares, which I would urge anyone to try and catch on \*eg.\*BBC America.

Suffice it to say, drawing a Venn diagram with a set of Muslims unioned with a set of suicide bombers is not very helpful (especially since so may _Hindus_ have carried out suicide bombings in Tamil Nadu, Jammu and and Kasmir). Suicide bombing arises when a group, rightly or wrongly, considers itself so oppressed that martyrdom becomes praiseworthy. It is a method of the desperate, and requires the “praise” of the wider community to produce the poor, stupid, exploited volunteers themselves.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/78 "2004-10-25T13:31:02Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> To continue along these lines, in 250,000 B.C. the Tribe Across the Hills, followers of the Moon Spirit, killed some members of the Tribe in the Swamp, followers of the Sun Spirit, using sticks on their unarmed adversaries. In light of this, I don’t see how we can possibly criticize Muslims or anyone, or even engage in critical thought.

Precisely. “On the bloody morning after, one tin soldier walks away.”

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/79 "2004-10-25T14:00:15Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Or they read it and decide that shtick’s been done to death already.

Dear Straight Dope,

I would like to register a protest against the excessive use of Monty Python references in this thread. I can tell you that they are a group of 5 humans and 1 ex-human, with no bloody pythons at all.

Yours,

Lt. Admiral Vivyan Smythe-Smythe Gravy Boat F’tang! (Mrs.)

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**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-about-them-moslems/270837/80 "2004-10-25T14:26:56Z")

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Fresh from too many espressos, I have to admit that I have never met a human being who was a subscribing Doper that I did not like, or was attracted to. (When I was still pursuing my undersgraduate degree, I had a huge crush on a girl named tequila\_mockingbird [sp?] in Cafe Society!) That being said, there seems to be no discussion of what is going on in SDMB that is affecting the overuse of Monty Python quotes on these boards. Instead, we (posters) seem to be attacking each other over who is responsible for abstract humor. Might we examine Cecil a bit, to see what makes some of his adherents quote British absurdist comedians?

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