# How acceptable would the Lord's Prayer be to non-Christians? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 6, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420 "2011-02-06T18:38:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/81 "2011-02-09T17:24:15Z")
If god is everywhere ,why is there a need to pray in public. You can go home and pray your brains out and I don’t care. What is the need to precede public meetings and sporting events with prayers? Since I don’t believe in god, why do I have to listen to praying. Would it be fair to start each public occasion with an atheist rebuttal? Why do we have to sit or stand for your praying/ Go home and do it, then no problems. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/82 "2011-02-09T17:26:55Z")
You are threadshitting. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/83 "2011-02-09T17:29:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Are you suggesting that we rewrite the Lord’s Prayer to include demands for all those things, or did you post to the wrong thread? 😉 [I moved that post to this thread, which I’m sure is where **Acid Lamp** meant to put it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13447246#post13447246) This might be my favorite wrong-thread post ever. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/84 "2011-02-09T17:31:36Z")
Now that you moved it, nobody will ever know. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/85 "2011-02-09T18:28:22Z")
Here you go - as originally posted by **Acid Lamp** : Time travel. As others have noted, it is like having all the other powers wrapped up in one. You could make yourself irresistible by simply trying out different technique sequences. **Become invisible** - manipulation of time is sufficiently powerful to achieve this effect. or simply go to the future and grab some tech that allows you do so. We aren’t that far off now. \*\*Become irresistible to anyone I desire \*\* trial and error. \*\*Communicate with alien life forms \*\* matter of time and technology. \*\*Communicate with animals \*\* Matter of time and technology \*\*Fly \*\* See above \*\*Heal sickness with my touch \*\* nano tech \*\*Live forever \*\* matter of time manipulation \*\*\*\*Predict the future \*\* self explanatory \*\*Teleport myself \*\* same effect \*\*Temporarily “freeze” all life (except my own) \*\* self explanatory, (create a tiny loop) \*\*Touch a book and absorb its contents forever \*\* matter of technology ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/86 "2011-02-09T19:27:13Z")
Our father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will Be Done, on Earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day the power to turn invisible, travel through time, and fly under our own power… I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/87 "2011-02-09T22:18:11Z")
:smack: Well I have to admit that WOULD be an improvement upon the original prayer. I blame Lazarus form recovery for this. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/88 "2011-02-10T10:04:22Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > **clairobscur** , that “al” is the article. In Arabic they join the name. It is not a different word, it is the marker saying “we’re talking about one specific God and not any god”. We do that in Spanish too: “LA Sonsoles” says you’re speaking about Zapatero’s wife and not any other woman called Sonsoles… Which, again, is exactly what I’m saying. Allah isn’t any random god. He’s the god who authored the Kuran. Others gods, like Apollo, aren’t Allah anymore than a random woman is “la Sonsoles” . And especially not so since it isn’t just an article added, but a contraction. It’s not just “al ilah”, it’s Allah, a specific term for a specific god. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/89 "2011-02-10T10:08:50Z")
No but they are allah. Or actually, in this case, it would have to be the plural form. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/90 "2011-02-10T10:14:58Z")
> [@Cumberdale](#): > > For me, it is not the prayer itself, but all the baggage that comes with it. If I did not live in a society where believers want to impose their belief on everyone it wouldn’t bother me. > > If several states in my country still didn’t have it written into their constitutions that you have to believe in god in order to be elected to office, it wouldn’t bother me. > > **If I wasn’t looked down on by believers, it wouldn’t bother me.** > > If I could freely speak my mind about my lack of belief the way believers can speak of their belief, it wouldn’t bother me. > > \*\*If I could go to a sporting event or even watch my congress in action without having to be subjected to silly religious rituals, it wouldn’t bother me. > \*\* > As soon as Jesus, Mary, Allah etc. are spoken of like Zeus, Mt. Olympus and Hercules are spoken of today, then I wouldn’t find such prayers as offensive. I might even come to enjoy them the way I can enjoy Christmas music or reading Nortons Anthology. Am I the only one who sees a contradiction here? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420/91 "2011-02-11T23:58:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > No but they are allah. . _ **il** _ah, not allah [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-the-lords-prayer-be-to-non-christians/570420.md?page=4)