# How are newly printed dollar bills shipped around the world?

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**Created:** [October 30, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624 "2013-10-30T03:25:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidmich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/1 "2013-10-30T03:25:51Z")

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Hi,

How are newly printed US dollar bills shipped around the world?  
I look forward to your feedback.  
davidmich

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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/2 "2013-10-30T04:18:25Z")

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In some cases, apparently they load them on pallets to ship by army cargo plane to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/3 "2013-10-30T04:18:26Z")

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The US mint sells them directly to banks and dealers, I believe at face value. Regular people that order directly from the mint pay at minimum 50% over face, but as much as 20-25X face value.

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**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/4 "2013-10-30T07:51:54Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> Regular people that order directly from the mint pay at minimum 50% over face, but as much as 20-25X face value.

So, if I ordered a $100 bill from the mint, it would cost me $2,000? :eek:

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/5 "2013-10-30T07:56:05Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> The US mint sells them directly to banks and dealers, I believe at face value. Regular people that order directly from the mint pay at minimum 50% over face, but as much as 20-25X face value.

Nitpick: the Mint makes coins, the Bureau of Engraving prints notes. I understand that the BoE’s only customer is the Federal Reserve, but I could be wrong on this.

I’ve often wondered about countries that use US currency in lieu of their own (Panama and Ecuador do this, I believe) get fresh bills to replace their worn ones. Do they have special couriers or do they just not worry about them?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/6 "2013-10-30T08:04:03Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> The US mint sells them directly to banks and dealers, I believe at face value.

The Mint doesn’t make Federal Reserve notes. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing does, and it sells them at the cost of production to the Federal Reserve, not at face value to banks. (The Fed pays face value for coins, but not its own notes.)

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/7 "2013-10-30T08:06:24Z")

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> [@Fish\_Cheer](#):
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> So, if I ordered a $100 bill from the mint, it would cost me $2,000? :eek:

[Markets In Turmoil As Price Of Money Skyrockets To $90 A Dollar](http://www.theonion.com/video/markets-in-turmoil-as-price-of-money-skyrockets-to,32940/)

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**Author:** ![davidmich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/8 "2013-10-30T09:12:39Z")

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I’m trying to understand how that makes sense. So banks pay $ 90 for 1. If I walk into a bank abroad and get a spanking new 1 bill, the bank has payed 90 for that. Presumably banks make their money back on other transactions. Please explain the justification for 90 a $ 1. Thanks.  
davidmich

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/9 "2013-10-30T09:29:28Z")

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> [@Fish\_Cheer](#):
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> So, if I ordered a $100 bill from the mint, it would cost me $2,000? :eek:

No. I’d imagine that if you asked your local US bank for a $100 dollar bill, and handed over five $20 bills, you’d get one. Dollar for dollar.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/10 "2013-10-30T09:48:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “Markets in Turmoil as Price of Money skyrockets to $90 a dollar”

> [@davidmich](#):
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> I’m trying to understand how that makes sense.

umm…dont try too hard…it doesnt make sense.  
WHOOSH! 🙂

(The link is from TheOnion. Which, in case you don’t know, is a humor site, not a news site.)

🙂

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**Author:** ![davidmich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/11 "2013-10-30T10:02:33Z")

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I see!

> **[Satirical Article In The Onion Nails The Problem With The Economy Right Now](https://www.businessinsider.com/the-onion-nails-the-main-problem-in-the-economy-right-now-2013-6)**

Satirical Article In The Onion Nails The Problem With The Economy Right Now  
JOE WEISENTHAL 25 JUNE 2013 5:42 AM Share Discuss Bookmark  
You have to hand it to The Onion, their satirical economics coverage has more than a grain of truth to it.  
The title to this piece is: Markets In Turmoil As Price Of Money Skyrockets To $90 A Dollar.  
Of course that’s silly, but actually, when the price of the currency is surging, that’s deflation, which actually is the big concern right now, as gold, commodities, and equities are all tumbling.  
The fact that central bankers seem to be throwing their hands in the air, not inclined to do anything more to stoke the economy only adds to the deflation concern.  
Markets In Turmoil As Price Of Money Skyrockets To $90 A Dollar

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/12 "2013-10-30T12:45:55Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> The US mint sells them directly to banks and dealers, I believe at face value. Regular people that order directly from the mint pay at minimum 50% over face, but as much as 20-25X face value.

So I take it that cutting out the middleman isn’t always the best option.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/13 "2013-10-30T14:08:38Z")

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> [@Donnerwetter](#):
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> … cutting … isn’t always the best option.

Steve Wozniak takes scissors with him and cuts off bills from [uncut sheets](http://www.ebay.com/bhp/uncut-sheets-of-money). Looking at prices on e-bay, this doesn’t look like a prank for the non-wealthy.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/14 "2013-10-30T14:16:55Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Steve Wozniak takes scissors with him and cuts off bills from [uncut sheets](http://www.ebay.com/bhp/uncut-sheets-of-money). Looking at prices on e-bay, this doesn’t look like a prank for the non-wealthy.

A low-cost alternative…get a bunch of **fresh** bills from a bank ($2 notes may be best for this, since they are uncommon, but singles would work).

Then hit up a print shop and have them glued up into a tear-off notepad (they just put glue on the edge of a neat stack).

Then hit the store, and you can just peel off however many bills you need in front of the cashier. Similar effect as cutting from an uncut sheet of bills for next to nothing.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/15 "2013-10-30T16:06:54Z")

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Mint will sell to the public a 25-roll of $1 coins for $32.5 plus shipping.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/16 "2013-10-30T22:13:03Z")

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The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has a [page about how cash gets into circulation.](http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed01.html)

If you’re wondering how it actually gets physically transported overseas, evidently they use [air freight](http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20130710_FBI_12_million_missing_from_currency_shipment.html) like any other business.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/17 "2013-10-31T06:43:27Z")

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At the BoE store, apparently $80 costs $116.  
[http://www.moneyfactorystore.gov/20currencysheetsbeptestsheet.aspx](http://www.moneyfactorystore.gov/20currencysheetsbeptestsheet.aspx)

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/18 "2013-10-31T10:56:51Z")

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Thank you Lord Feldon for those links. I was just about to ask if there had been any known heists during such currency shipments. Thanks again.  
davidmich

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/19 "2013-10-31T12:58:25Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> The Mint doesn’t make Federal Reserve notes. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing does, and it sells them at the cost of production to the Federal Reserve, not at face value to banks. (The Fed pays face value for coins, but not its own notes.)

I’m trying to figure out what you mean by the Fed doesn’t pay face value for its own notes… You mean it doesn’t pay the Bureau of Engraving, right?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-newly-printed-dollar-bills-shipped-around-the-world/672624/20 "2013-10-31T21:39:05Z")

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Plus, when you buy coins from the mint, you’re buying them Uncirculated – which adds to their numismatic value.

(Not to mention the higher-quality Proof coins that some of the mints also sell, which cost even more.)

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