# How are the Clinton hating dems feeling now? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862 "2022-06-25T22:15:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/461 "2022-09-26T01:21:58Z")
Thanks for the update, **Morgyn**. It’s not the same as **Sampiro** returning to the Dope (no offense), but it’s something. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/462 "2022-09-26T01:35:49Z")
You’re welcome. He’s not telling many stories now, but in the first few years we were friends on FB he was. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/463 "2023-04-11T15:51:27Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > What about people who voted for Republicans their whole life but decided Trump was too much and either didn’t vote or voted third party? > > If they weren’t delusional enough to vote for Trump, they should have voted for Clinton like their lives depended on it. It’s that serious. It might not matter anymore though. I’m kind of thinking we’re doomed. Sorry about the zombie thread revival, but I just can’t stop thinking about how much we’re fucking doomed. If the supremes outlaw, mifepristone, the next conservative target is birth control. Not shitting you. Anti-LGBTQ laws are going to become more and more extreme. Don’t get me started on climate change. [![](https://y.yarn.co/fe2cfa3b-e6e8-4583-beb3-0d348c046ca5_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/fe2cfa3b-e6e8-4583-beb3-0d348c046ca5_text.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/464 "2023-04-11T16:00:41Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > Sorry about the zombie thread revival, but I just can’t stop thinking about how much we’re fucking doomed. I don’t see it that way. I see **the right** is doomed. I think they’re seeing failures, they’re seeing that younger people even in red states are not putting up with their shit. They know their demographics are going to die off. So they’re like cornered rats lashing out. They’re doing everything they can to gerrymander, stack the courts, restrict voting rights, anything to push back the coming wave. And they’re going further and further into the extreme, trying to get as much of their agenda pushed through while they can. This extremism already cost them in the midterms and it’ll continue to cost them as they spiral. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/465 "2023-04-11T16:15:21Z")
Which is why they are doing their best to destroy democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/466 "2023-04-11T16:31:34Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I see **the right** is doomed. I think they’re seeing failures, they’re seeing that younger people even in red states are not putting up with their shit. They know their demographics are going to die off. So they’re like cornered rats lashing out. They’re doing everything they can to gerrymander, stack the courts, restrict voting rights, anything to push back the coming wave. And they’re going further and further into the extreme, trying to get as much of their agenda pushed through while they can. This extremism already cost them in the midterms and it’ll continue to cost them as they spiral. You’re pretty optimistic. I think we’re all doomed. People will continue to complain about how they don’t like Democrat [insert name here] or “they’re all alike” and not vote. Meanwhile, the right will successfully continue to destroy basic human and civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/467 "2023-04-11T16:41:59Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > Meanwhile, the right will successfully continue to destroy basic human and civil rights. And (successfully) blame the resultant shit-show on … Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/468 "2023-04-11T16:46:28Z")
The right? Have you looked around some of these threads? (ETA: or rather, much of this thread!) A good portion of the left does a fine job placing an abundance of blame on Democrats for failing to get elected or not being more obstructionist as the minority or not being sufficiently authoritarian when they had the chance or whatever ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/469 "2023-04-11T16:52:51Z")
Yes, good point. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/470 "2023-04-11T17:00:27Z")
‘_The best shape for a firing squad is circular._’ ~ Too many “leftists”. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/471 "2023-04-12T00:32:54Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The right? Have you looked around some of these threads? (ETA: or rather, much of this thread!) > > A good portion of the left does a fine job placing an abundance of blame on Democrats for failing to get elected or not being more obstructionist as the minority or not being sufficiently authoritarian when they had the chance or whatever Exactly. I’m telling ya. We’re never gonna crawl out of this hole. Okay, I said I didn’t want to get started on climate change. Buuutttt, has anyone seen the models predicting the level of warming from way back in the 80’s. We’re right fucking on track. When Obama became president, I had some hope that we could make the changes we needed to slow it down. I don’t have hope anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/472 "2023-04-12T13:22:38Z")
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/473 "2023-04-13T07:22:57Z")
I feel just as I did before. The DNC fell in with Hillary’s plan for a coronation and Trump was the result. The DNC recognized that after the election and eliminated the stupid rules that allowed it and kicked out the Clintonistas who tried to democratize the Democratic party. As it is the leadership in the party failed to support the President in 2020 and can’t get themselves to give him a good word in 2024 leaving the door open for chaos. We can’t expect to survive simply from the Republicans screwing up. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/474 "2023-04-13T15:30:39Z")
Dianne Feinstein is a perfect example of the problem. She refuses to step down from the Senate even though she’s clearly too old to function. At a time where the Republicans have already highjacked the judiciary system and are attempting to block any Democratic nominees to federal judiciary positions forever she cannot serve on the judiciary committee and won’t even step down from that and is asking for a temporary replacement that the Republicans will likely block. The same people calling Joe Biden too old for no discernable reason don’t seem to mind Feinstein staying in office despite her being totally ineffective. The cult of personality is as much of a cancer on the Democratic party as it is to the Republicans. The media reports that the party is putting pressure on her to resign but I don’t see any sign of it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/475 "2023-04-13T15:38:35Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The same people calling Joe Biden too old for no discernable reason don’t seem to mind Feinstein staying in office despite her being totally ineffective Really, it’s the same people? Exactly the same people? You do realize that Feinstein is elected by a small fraction of those who elect Biden, right? And, when I search Feinstein’s name, the first thing I see is headlines like: > **[Feinstein, Under Pressure to Resign, Asks to Step Down From Judiciary Panel](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/12/us/politics/feinstein-senate-judiciary-committee.html)** > > The 89-year-old California Democrat, who has been absent from the Senate for more than a month after being diagnosed with shingles, said she would seek a temporary replacement on the powerful committee. > **[Feinstein asks to be temporarily replaced on Judiciary Committee amid calls...](https://www.npr.org/2023/04/13/1169664922/dianne-feinstein-resign-judiciary-committee)** > > The move could help Senate Democrats advance more federal judges for confirmation. Feinstein, the oldest member of Congress, hasn't cast a vote since Feb. 16. > **[Sen. Dianne Feinstein faces calls to step down amid medical issue](https://www.today.com/video/sen-dianne-feinstein-faces-calls-to-step-down-amid-medical-issue-170143813633)** > > There are growing calls for longtime Senator Dianne Feinstein to step down as she has been absent for nearly two months due to illness. Some of her fellow Democrats are worried that her extended absence is standing in the way of important duties.... > **[Calls Mount for Dianne Feinstein to Resign as the Ailing Senator Steps Back...](https://www.democracynow.org/2023/4/13/headlines/calls_mount_for_dianne_feinstein_to_resign_as_the_ailing_senator_steps_back_from_judiciary_cmte)** > > Democratic California Senator Dianne Feinstein has asked to temporarily step back from her seat on the powerful Judiciary Committee, as calls mount for her resignation — including from within her own party. Eighty-nine-year-old Feinstein, who is... > [@TriPolar](#): > > The cult of personality is as much of a cancer on the Democratic party as it is to the Republicans. Ah, bothsidism. That’s the real cancer that is going to kill our country. > [@TriPolar](#): > > The media reports that the party is putting pressure on her to resign but I don’t see any sign of it. Did you actually look? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/476 "2023-04-13T15:44:13Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Dianne Feinstein is a perfect example of the problem. She refuses to step down from the Senate even though she’s clearly too old to function. > **[California Sen. Feinstein says she won't run for reelection](https://apnews.com/article/dianne-feinstein-not-running-for-reelection-1140a033b78e63687633bc154bc358ff)** > > Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein is not seeking reelection in 2024. Her announcement Tuesday signals the end of a groundbreaking political career spanning six decades in which she shattered gender barriers and left a mark on political battles over... Did you actually look? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/477 "2023-04-13T15:47:04Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Ah, bothsidism. That’s the real cancer that is going to kill our country. yikes ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/478 "2023-04-13T15:49:07Z")
Has she stepped down? No. No need to look further, any pressure has been ineffective. You are just reporting the failure. This isn’t a new problem. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Ah, bothsidism. That’s the real cancer that is going to kill our country. What the hell is bothsidism? Do you think being ineffective is a good way to be different than the Republicans? I want their side to continue to fail, not our side to join them. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/479 "2023-04-13T16:25:27Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The media reports that the party is putting pressure on her to resign but I don’t see any sign of it. What signs would you expect to see other than reports in the media? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862/480 "2023-04-13T16:35:43Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Has she stepped down? No. No need to look further, any pressure has been ineffective. How exactly can they force her to? > [@TriPolar](#): > > You are just reporting the failure. This isn’t a new problem. I’m reporting the news that says that she isn’t running for re-election. Whether she steps down before that is entirely her decision. > [@TriPolar](#): > > What the hell is bothsidism? Statements like: > [@TriPolar](#): > > The cult of personality is as much of a cancer on the Democratic party as it is to the Republicans. Where you point to a single person in an extremely liberal and safe district whose only fault is that she’s getting old and equate that to Trumpism. You are saying that storming the Capitol to keep Trump in power is the same as not forcing her to resign. That’s bothsidism, and it’s exactly that sort of false equivalence that gives the MAGAs the cover they need. > [@TriPolar](#): > > Do you think being ineffective is a good way to be different than the Republicans? No, that would be an extremely stupid strawman to build. > [@TriPolar](#): > > I want their side to continue to fail, not our side to join them. It’s going to be harder for them to fail when you are aiming at your own side. And you do exactly that when you claim that not forcing a rep to resign is the same as claiming election fraud stole the presidency from Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-the-clinton-hating-dems-feeling-now/966862.md?page=25)