# How Are They Going to Spin Flynn (A time sensitive thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256 "2017-12-01T16:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/21 "2017-12-01T18:07:01Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > **Somebody will dig up a picture of Hillary and Flynn** , declare them to be best buds, then start chanting “Lock Them Up!” (or fabricate one). ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/22 "2017-12-01T18:12:01Z")
Flynn was a no good liar. He lied about his connections with Russia which none of us knew anything about, so that’s why we took the courageous act of firing him. Now he’s selfishly lying to telling FBI the deep state conspiracy against me what they want to hear in order to save his own skin. FAKE NEWS! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/23 "2017-12-01T18:15:47Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Flynn is a known liar… He’s a _confessed_ liar! Therefore, any incriminating testimony he gives is a lie. Including that he interacted with the Russians, which makes him a _double_ liar. He was lying when he confessed to lying because it never happened. Can’t trust him! ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/24 "2017-12-01T18:34:59Z")
I don’t know exactly by which mechanisms it will happen, but I am confident that Trump and his administration will weasel their way out of any real consequences, and any revelations related to Flynn will _not_ be the big bombshell that everyone has been hoping will sink Trump. I’m confident of this because Trump is such an expert at evading consequences. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am. From the very beginning of Trump’s campaign I predicted that he would win and that everything thrown at him would bounce off, because he bulldozes through life without giving a fuck about consequences and it works. For the past year, there’s been a constant series of “this is finally the thing that’s going to bring him down” and he’s weathered them all. And I think he’ll be re-elected in 2020, by the way. As to how they’ll specifically “spin” Flynn, “they” meaning the administration and their spokespeople, don’t really need to spin it at all. They just need to evade any questions about him with vague gibberish, like they do with everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/25 "2017-12-01T18:37:44Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > I don’t know exactly by which mechanisms it will happen, but I am confident that Trump and his administration will weasel their way out of any real consequences, and any revelations related to Flynn will _not_ be the big bombshell that everyone has been hoping will sink Trump. I’m confident of this because Trump is such an expert at evading consequences. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am. From the very beginning of Trump’s campaign I predicted that he would win and that everything thrown at him would bounce off, because he bulldozes through life without giving a fuck about consequences and it works. For the past year, there’s been a constant series of “this is finally the thing that’s going to bring him down” and he’s weathered them all. And I think he’ll be re-elected in 2020, by the way. > > As to how they’ll specifically “spin” Flynn, “they” meaning the administration and their spokespeople, don’t really need to spin it at all. They just need to evade any questions about him with vague gibberish, like they do with everything else. Bah Fucking Humbug! ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/26 "2017-12-01T18:54:09Z")
“collusion isn’t illegal, Flynn was arrested for lying to Mueller”. Or “Flynn is a known liar” Or “Flynn is charged with a minor crime. Probably won’t even get jail time.” I like the third because the people who promote it have no idea the reason Flynn got such a great deal from Mueller is for handing kushner, Trump, trumps family, pence, sessions etc over to Mueller and giving Mueller everything on them. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/27 "2017-12-01T19:01:10Z")
Hannity has been laying the groundwork for months that Meuller is an agent of the deep state, out to get Trump, and anything he uncovers isn’t to be believed. I imagine Hannity will attempt to pass this off as a nothingburger of deep state agents with a blank check written directly from tax-payers bank accounts. SHUT DOWN THE INVESTIGATION! WASTE OF TAXPAYERS HARD-EARNED MONEY! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/28 "2017-12-01T19:40:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/936637041680551936) > > “WH lawyer Ty Cobb describes Trump’s designated national security adviser Michael Flynn as “a former Obama administration official”” Perfect, especially after Obama specifically warned the stupid, orange prick about Flynn. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/29 "2017-12-01T20:40:50Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > If you didn’t believe him when he was testifying, why do you suddenly believe him now, when it supports your biases? You guys just pick and choose who’s telling the truth whenever it’s convenient for you and demonizes the right. Typical leftists. Wow. After reading your later explanation, this does seem like a possible gambit from the traitors in the White House - and their Deplorables. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/30 "2017-12-01T20:44:05Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Perfect, especially after Obama specifically warned the stupid, orange prick about Flynn. Fake news Where’s his birth certificate anyway? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/31 "2017-12-01T21:08:17Z")
Has ANY sitting president ever bad mouthed and trashed a previous administration the way that the current president has done? That’s a serious question because I can’t recall this ever being the case. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/32 "2017-12-01T21:18:13Z")
Luckily for us, the crew over at _ThinkProgress_ has been watching and offers this briefing: **Fox News’ extremely creative coverage of Michael Flynn’s guilty plea** > **[Fox News’ extremely creative coverage of Michael Flynn’s guilty plea](https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-flynn-9998c263a4a2/)** > > Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and other people Fox News wants to talk about besides Gen. Flynn. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/33 "2017-12-01T21:24:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Luckily for us, the crew over at _ThinkProgress_ has been watching and offers this briefing: > > **Fox News’ extremely creative coverage of Michael Flynn’s guilty plea** > > [Fox News’ extremely creative coverage of Michael Flynn’s guilty plea – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-flynn-9998c263a4a2/) When the news first broke, the Fox News headline was “Mueller Gets His Man”. Not even _close._ ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/34 "2017-12-01T22:07:49Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > If you didn’t believe him when he was testifying, why do you suddenly believe him now, when it supports your biases? You guys just pick and choose who’s telling the truth whenever it’s convenient for you and demonizes the right. Typical leftists. In all honesty, I would expect Flynn’s credibility to be an issue going forward. Of course this isn’t Mueller’s first rodeo, and he’ll definitely seek corroboration where possible, but I’d worry about any aspect of any case against anybody in this administration which rests on the word of Michael Flynn. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/35 "2017-12-01T22:14:11Z")
“Flynn is a Democrat”. Posted with great regularity this morning on my Facebook feed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/36 "2017-12-01T22:58:55Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > In all honesty, I would expect Flynn’s credibility to be an issue going forward. Of course this isn’t Mueller’s first rodeo, and he’ll definitely seek corroboration where possible, but I’d worry about any aspect of any case against anybody in this administration which rests on the word of Michael Flynn. Of course, the FBI has the same problem when they take down any other criminal organization. Pretty much anyone in this administration has a credibility problem: dishonesty was a job requirement. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/37 "2017-12-01T23:08:27Z")
Coming tomorrow: “Jared Kushner was never a big part of our family - at family BBQs he would always stand in the corner and eat all the food and mutter to himself about how much he loved Obama. Ivanka doesn’t even remember marrying him! Fake News!” ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/38 "2017-12-01T23:40:52Z")
This is all a big [nothingburger](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian), move along… > [@](#): > > The White House said on Friday that it was the Obama administration that authorized former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during President Trump’s transition, according to CNN. > … > > “They are saying here at the White House that Flynn’s conversations with Sergey Kisylak were quote ‘authorized’ by the Obama administration,” CNN correspondent Jim Acosta said. > > “We should point out, that is something that we have not heard before in terms of a defense from this White House,” he said. > > A senior WH official told CNN that the Obama admin “authorized” Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak. But former DNI Clapper just told CNN that’s “absurd.” > > — Jim Acosta (@Acosta) December 1, 2017 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/39 "2017-12-02T00:37:20Z")
And of course the cultist base will buy the “It’s Obama’s fault” lies completely. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256/40 "2017-12-02T01:52:27Z")
If i were Flynn, I might invest in a suit with kevlar in the lining. And stay away from windows. And hire someone to start my car. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-they-going-to-spin-flynn-a-time-sensitive-thread/803256.md?page=3)