# How are you hung? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984 "2004-01-17T20:09:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/1 "2004-01-17T20:09:52Z")
I’m talking about windows! I’m in the process of putting new windows in my 40 year old house. Holy Cow! This is more difficult than buying a car! Double hung or single hung? Double hung windows are easier to clean. But are they worth the extra money? What do really care if I raise the lower window OR lower the top window. I don’t open my windows that often anyway. Should I get a grid installed? I’m thinking maybe yes. At least for the front of the house where aesthetics matter. If so, they come in three varieties… 1) inside where they snap in and out for easier cleaning (doesn’t seem like a good idea to me). 2) outside permanently attached to window, 3) between the double panes of glass. (Easiest to clean, but most expensive) Who wants to give me their opinions and pitfalls of buying new windows for my house? E3 ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/2 "2004-01-18T02:52:50Z")
We have both double hung and casement (crank out) windows in our house. We were lucky enough to buy a house that had very high end windows installed. I’ve looked at the cost of the windows with the grid (aka muttons, mullions) between the panes and couldn’t understand the additional cost. Didn’t seem like a good value to me. Mine are the interior snap-out kind and they work just ducky. Plus I like the look. Special “doo-dads” such as blinds on the patio doors, are between the storm pane and the exterior pane. Makes it very nice to keep them clean. At least one manufacturer makes a roll-down screen that looks like a marvelous idea to me. Storing screens is a pain in the arse. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Mephisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Mephisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mephisto)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/3 "2004-01-18T03:09:32Z")
Yup. I’m among the 99% checking in who were ready to read and/or talk about penises. I myself like the crank-out kinds. Um, of windows that is. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/4 "2004-01-18T03:23:00Z")
As fun as it is to make titles that are double-entendres, you might get more responses from carpenters and such if you ask the mods to change the title to something more descriptive. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/5 "2004-01-18T03:37:51Z")
The management just replaced the old rotting double-hung windows in my apartment. They stalled a long time, saying they wanted to stay with double-hung. In the end, the used single-hung. Which made me happy. I have never seen the alleged ‘allure’ of the double hung window. I mean, what difference does it make? None, to me. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/6 "2004-01-18T04:43:05Z")
What does the house look like? What style is it? Our house has metal casements. They leak and the frames conduct heat, but they look good on our home, a 1950s stucco bungalow. ---
**Author:** ![galen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@galen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/7 "2004-01-18T15:39:40Z")
I installed vinyl single hung Milgard windows in our 90 year old stucco bungalow about 5 years ago. We chose grids on the windows which face the street. The extra cost was something like 20 per window. If I did it again, I would choose double hung. Being able to lower the top sash really would improve ventilation and facilitate cleaning. The outsides of these windows can only be cleaned properly from outside the house. Not a big deal. I considered the brands which feature a lower sash which swings out for cleaning, but I thought that it made for a weaker window. That may or may not be true, but it was my perception. Choose the windows with the widest gap between the two sheets of glass, all things being equal. If you live in a _very_ cold climate, consider triple glazed windows. Shop around. There are a lot of overpriced outfits out there. Drive a hard bargain. Do not hesitate to tell dealer Y that you can get such and such a price from dealer X. We drove the price per window down to about $150-200/window. That is the price for the window only. _Do not take the measurements yourself._ Make the dealer do it. It is easy to get the measurements slightly off and then your are screwed if _you_ took the measurements. If the dealer did, it is on him. Consider installing them yourself. It is fairly easy to do if you are handy with tools and you will save a bundle. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/8 "2004-01-18T16:41:52Z")
I used to work at Pella Window Corp[sup]TM[/sup]. When we were remodling our house we went with double hung windows. As **Galen** said, being able to lower the upper sash makes for better ventilation. It so easy to clean a double hung window, both sahses tilt inward, and snap back in place so easily, the windows were never dirty. The house we recently moved into has a pair of casement windows in the kitchen. I like them, but not as well as the double hung windows. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/9 "2004-01-18T17:21:04Z")
The only other advantage to a double-hung window is if you have small children that might fall out the window. You might consider a tilt-turn on the ground floor (if you have one) for added security. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/10 "2004-01-18T17:40:59Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > As fun as it is to make titles that are double-entendres, you might get more responses from carpenters and such if you ask the mods to change the title to something more descriptive. Thanks for the advice Captain Obvious! I realized I made a mistake about an hour after I posted. The mods have been notified. :smack: e3 ---
**Author:** ![dragongirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@dragongirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dragongirl)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/11 "2004-01-18T20:02:48Z")
I thought it was a penis thread too. Now, I’m all disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2004, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/12 "2004-01-19T21:51:25Z")
> [@cornflakes](#): > > What does the house look like? What style is it? > > Our house has metal casements. They leak and the frames conduct heat, but they look good on our home, a 1950s stucco bungalow. It’s a ranch style, all brick house. It’s around 40 or 41 years old. Attached garage, kind of cross between tan and yellow brick. ---
**Author:** ![aerodave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f08c70/32.png) [@aerodave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aerodave)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/13 "2004-01-19T23:11:45Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > It’s a ranch style, all brick house. It’s around 40 or 41 years old. Attached garage, kind of cross between tan and yellow brick. Sounds a lot like my house. 43-44 year old brick ranch., with original aluminum frame windows. They’re old, leaky, and long overdue for replacement. The answers in this thread will be of great interest to me, as I’m gearing up to get new windows later this year. ---
**Author:** ![Toddly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Toddly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toddly)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/14 "2004-01-20T03:48:46Z")
We have vinyl double hung windows in our house and like them real well. They are more convienient to clean because you never have to go outside. We chose them for cost and maintenance. No painting inside and out and they have not discolored in 12 years. I never liked the grids that were in between the 2 panes of glass although it is easier to clean. We don’t use them. We chose Certainteed windows. ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/15 "2004-01-20T13:20:26Z")
Anderson windows - double hung - easy to clean and double paned (with some sort of gas in the middle). We have mullions on the front of the house, but not on the back because we didn’t want to obscure the view. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/16 "2004-01-20T16:06:30Z")
I contract install for both Paceseter and Home Depot. As noted earlier, the ease of cleaning it what seems to sell the double hung, but it’s the Spring and Fall ventelation capabilities that people truly value after several years of living with double hung. I usually recommend those adjustable burglar stops, too. You can leave the windows down about 3 or 4 inches with little worries. Close and lock 'em when you want the most safety of course. Spend the extra money for double paned, gas filled, low-E glass. The aesthetics of moulions or not are debateable, in my opinion… I have a large penis. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/17 "2004-01-21T06:28:09Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > snip > > I have a large penis. Oh man, I am SO using that for my next sig. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/18 "2004-01-21T06:34:03Z")
Stately Mercotan Manor has both the crank kind of windows and the kind of windows that don’t open at all and are accessible only to actual window-cleaning professionals with special ladders and implements and such. The crank kind have always seemed pretty easy to clean to me. My apartment, being university-owned, has suicide prevention windows that only open a few inches. Fortunately, I’m not responsible for cleaning them. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/19 "2004-01-22T03:51:42Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I contract install for both Paceseter and Home Depot. > > As noted earlier, the ease of cleaning it what seems to sell the double hung, but it’s the Spring and Fall ventelation capabilities that people truly value after several years of living with double hung. > > I usually recommend those adjustable burglar stops, too. You can leave the windows down about 3 or 4 inches with little worries. Close and lock 'em when you want the most safety of course. > > Spend the extra money for double paned, gas filled, low-E glass. The aesthetics of moulions or not are debateable, in my opinion… > I have a large penis. Double paned, gas filled, low-E gas is definitely going to happen. I’m just trying to justify the cost of double hung windows. And I’m wondering if I should bother with window grids on the back of my house. I’m trying to save money, but I’m trying to decide if I’ll regret it later. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-hung/224984/20 "2004-01-22T05:54:26Z")
We have casement windows. I like them. They are ox bow windows. No complaints in nearly 11 years since installed.