# How are you preparing for the coming fascist authoritarian regime?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [June 18, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-preparing-for-the-coming-fascist-authoritarian-regime/966426 "2022-06-18T12:35:19Z")
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### Author: ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-preparing-for-the-coming-fascist-authoritarian-regime/966426/141 "2022-06-20T00:16:47Z")

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what about options like  
china,russia and even Mexico takes the opportunity to invade during the chaos  
western Europe under a UN flag occupies the us under a peacekeeping type of mission and its declared a un territory

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### Author: ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)
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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> china,russia and even Mexico takes the opportunity to invade during the chaos  
> western Europe under a UN flag occupies the us under a peacekeeping type of mission and its declared a un territory

That sounds like a paranoid right wing conspiracy nightmare from the 1990s. We’ve got a nuclear arsenal, and I’m betting a good percentage of it actually works. Even if we didn’t use our nukes, put yourself in Colonel Pierre’s position. Do you really want to try invading a country of 330,000,000 and becoming the common enemy to a violent brutish people with a xenophobic streak who seem perfectly comfortable killing one another?

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### Author: ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-preparing-for-the-coming-fascist-authoritarian-regime/966426/143 "2022-06-20T01:04:03Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> They would so get their asses kicked. More people in cities are armed than they can imagine. Not to mention being so vastly out numbered. I know they imagine those of us who live in cities are a bunch of spineless pussies but they really have not idea how tough we are.

Also because they would be easy to single out as dumb rubes who can’t find their way around the subway, pronounce “Houston Street” like the city in Texas instead of “HOW-ston”, and gravitate towards Times Square chain restaurants.

This all sounds like an interesting thought experiment at best and paranoid left-wing conspiracy theory at worst. I would even go so far as to suggest America has already been living in a “fascist authoritarian regime” or “techno-corporate capitalist plutocracy” or whatever you want to call it for decades. All the bickering over Republicans or Democrats in charge is all bullshit designed to keep the proles busy fighting each because America is run by cabal of a thousand or so billionaires and their Inner Circle of bankers, lawyers, politicians and other assorted hired cronies.

Then again, what do I know.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> This is happening on much of the rest of the “advanced” world too

It really isn’t.  
We do have periodic tempests, but our teapots can handle it.

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### Author: ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)
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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> How are blue areas going to survive without the food grown in red areas, for example?

If you live by growing and selling food, you still need someone to buy it.

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### Author: ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> I do wonder what happens if significant numbers of Americans try to flee north to Canada. Canada is outnumbered 10:1, and even though not _everyone_ would try that, the sheer numbers combined with a largely unfortified border is… not a pretty picture.

> [@velomont](#):
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> I certainly don’t believe that we in Canada are going to be safe from collateral damage from whatever goes badly in the US.
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> IMO, if you go down we’ll be dragged down with you. Once/if significant violence surfaces in US, what are the chances of Canada’s western separatists/freedom convoy idiots rising to the surface?
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> And, depending on how things go in the US, what are the chances of hardcore conservatives deciding that it’s time to wrap up the whole manifest destiny project?
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> Also, if US is sufficiently distracted then we’ll probably be hosting visitors from Russia and/or China on their respective arctic adventures.

If the Republicans win in 2024, the floodgates will be open.  
Or wait - I know!  
A wall! ✅  
🙂

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### Author: ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)
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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> A wall! ✅

A well worn meme … and with the advantage that being the polite culture they are, they’d be willing to pay for it themselves.

[![](https://i.ibb.co/kBdXdYK/canada.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/kBdXdYK/canada.jpg)

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### Author: ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)
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> [@msmith537](#):
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> All the bickering over Republicans or Democrats in charge is all bullshit designed to keep the proles busy fighting each because America is run by cabal of a thousand or so billionaires and their Inner Circle of bankers, lawyers, politicians and other assorted hired cronies.

This is mostly true, but appointments/confirmations to the federal judiciary are the glaring exception. Although in this regard it matters enormously whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge, Democrats and progressives in particular seem all but oblivious to that reality. It’s as if the machinations of a few legal specialists are too abstract for us to care about.

1/19/21.  
Monty Hall: Jay, tell the conservatives what they’ve won.

Jay: You get a 6-9 right wing wing SCOTUS majority! Your three new justices are young and raring to go, throw out precedents right and left, I mean just left, for decades to come, and they’ve all been vetted and aporoved by the Federalist Society.

[Cue Federalist Society seal of approval appearing on the studio monitors]

1/19/25  
Monty Hall: Tell the liberals what they’ve won, Jay.  
Jay: You get…One liberal justice replacing another liberal justice.

Trombone: WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.

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Naw - Charles Koch, the Mercer family, and some of their buds can put the money up for this. Keep _in_ the purity of American patriots. 🙃  
This _does_ worry me, a little. Impossible to say exactly how it’ll all play itself out, but the aforementioned issues are concerning (for just about everywhere, really, with multiple domino effects).

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I’m preparing by reading threads here about how the Dems need to put up ‘sexier’ candidates.  
Because, somehow, not ~~Hitler~~ a Republican just isn’t enough.  
Save me a nice window ~~seat~~ place on the train to the death camp if you can.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2022, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-preparing-for-the-coming-fascist-authoritarian-regime/966426/151 "2022-06-20T06:06:23Z")

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> **[Texas GOP Declares Biden Illegitimate, Demands End to Abortion](https://www.newsweek.com/texas-gop-declares-biden-illegitimate-demands-end-abortion-1717167)**
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> "We hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States," says a resolution acted on by Texas Republicans.

_“We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States,” the resolution says…" It also [described homosexuality as an “abnormal lifestyle choice”](https://www.newsweek.com/texas-gop-convention-sparks-intraparty-feud-treatment-gay-republicans-1717159) and that the party “oppose all efforts to validate transgender identity.”_

A whole party has gone insane.

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### Author: ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)
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> [@enipla](#):
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> If I become president someday, if I decide to do it,

Pretty much a foregone conclusion that, if he “decides to do it”, he can have it. The horrible thing is, I believe that’s true unless more forceful tactics are used to oppose him and his supporters than have been used up to now.

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> Pretty much a foregone conclusion that, if he “decides to do it”, he can have it.

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Do you really want to try invading a country of 330,000,000 and becoming the common enemy to a violent brutish people with a xenophobic streak who seem perfectly comfortable killing one another?

You forgot “_heavily armed_ violent brutish people with a xenophobic streak who seem perfectly comfortable killing one another”. We have more guns than people, and that’s saying something. Anyone attempting to hold a part of the US against the will of the inhabitants is going to have one hell of an insurgency to deal with.

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### Author: ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-are-you-preparing-for-the-coming-fascist-authoritarian-regime/966426/155 "2022-06-20T14:17:37Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> what about options like  
> china,russia and even Mexico takes the opportunity to invade during the chaos  
> western Europe under a UN flag occupies the us under a peacekeeping type of mission and its declared a un territory

Would that actually be worse? At least the Europeans will bring punctuation.

Dan

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And healthcare!

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I’m preparing for my fellow citizens to become more violent over the course of the next few years. I haven’t been to the range in years, but I’m going to start going back soon to make sure everything is in working order.

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Laurence Tribe _et al_ have an op-ed in the L. A. Times with a new take on an old saying:

> [@](#):
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> And should Trump get an encore, look to pre-World War II Germany for a mirror. A failed coup in 1923 taught Hitler a better route to dictatorship nine years later.
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> Those who repeat history are doomed to learn it. The hard way.

> **[Op-Ed: The insurrection won't end until Trump is prosecuted and disqualified...](https://news.yahoo.com/op-ed-insurrection-wont-end-095019513.html)**
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> Holding Trump accountable — and disqualifying him from future office — would not be a partisan act, but one needed to preserve the republic.

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If Trump is convicted, or dies of being old and fat, DeSantis is there to take his place.

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2020 was just a trial run by a narcissistic idiot. But the rest of them, who aren’t nearly as dumb, are honing their tactics for '24.

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