# How bad would a Trump election be for you personally?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 28, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448 "2024-06-28T16:25:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/101 "2024-07-02T13:25:05Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Trump, in practice, will be more focused on petty domestic issues. One hopes

Trump has said that he wants to pull aid from Ukraine. And he has told NATO members that if he doesn’t _feel like_ they are pulling their weight, he will gladly allow Russia to invade:

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> “‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”

If Trump is elected, say goodbye to our unipolar world. It won’t even be a bipolar or tripolar world, because it won’t just be China and Russia scrambling for seats at the table; unable to count on us, Europe and our other allies will have to scramble to build up their own armies.

_America First_ policies will create a global power vacuum; and geopolitics abhors a vacuum.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/102 "2024-07-02T13:39:23Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> If Trump and henchmen take a hatchet to Medicare and Social Security I’d be screwed, but that would likely require legislation that I think even GOP congresscritters would hesitate to abolish.

I’ve long assumed that if Trump wins, the GOP will likely also end up controlling the House and Senate. With an ascendant Trump in office, none of the GOP congress members will dare speak against him, or his legislative agenda. If he tells them to cut something, they’ll cut it.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/103 "2024-07-02T13:42:55Z")

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If you read books by Trump’s aides, Trump wanted to pull America out of Korea. Trump has no interest in complicated foreign situations. Trump is envious of despots who have power but seemingly are dismissive about their people. Narcissists do not usually make good leaders.

If the President is immune, to whatever degree, from civil and criminal actions than this also applies to Biden. Maybe it’s like those cheesy movies where someone travels back in time.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/104 "2024-07-02T13:53:57Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Trump wanted to pull America out of Korea.

Just a small token of his love and appreciation for Kim.

Seriously - I was half joking about New Zealand becoming a Chinese client state - but if Trump pulls out of Korea, that really does signal to China that the Pacific is theirs for the taking, so maybe it isn’t actually so outlandish.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/105 "2024-07-02T14:10:09Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> I expect Trump to go after his “enemies” be they in the media or even elected officials.

I said the above yesterday. Then I found this just now:

> Former President Donald J. Trump over the weekend escalated his [vows to prosecute his political opponents](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/06/us/politics/trump-retribution-revenge-democrats.html), circulating posts on his social media website invoking “televised military tribunals” and calling for the jailing of President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, Senators Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer and former Vice President Mike Pence, among other high-profile politicians.
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> Mr. Trump, using his account on Truth Social on Sunday, promoted two posts from other users of the site that called for the jailing of his perceived political enemies.
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> One post that he circulated on Sunday singled out Liz Cheney, the former Wyoming congresswoman who is a Republican critic of Mr. Trump’s, and called for her to be prosecuted by a type of military court reserved for enemy combatants and war criminals.

> **[Trump Amplifies Calls to Jail Top Elected Officials, Invokes Military Tribunals](https://dnyuz.com/2024/07/01/trump-amplifies-calls-to-jail-top-elected-officials-invokes-military-tribunals/)**
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> Former President Donald J. Trump over the weekend escalated his vows to prosecute his political opponents, circulating posts on his

Then there is this:

> Research has found that mass shooters don’t just snap.
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> They spend time thinking about violence and they plan, prepare, and often share indicators before their attacks. This means there are opportunities to identify someone who is on a pathway to violence - and prevent their attack.
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> Studies have also proven that **before** most mass attacks, someone observed concerning behaviors that were signs the person was on a path to violence. The people who noticed were often friends, family, schoolmates, coworkers, or loved ones.

> **[Prevent Mass Violence | Federal Bureau of Investigation](https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/how-we-investigate/prevent-mass-violence)**
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> Mass shooters spend time thinking about violence and they plan, prepare, and often share indicators before their attacks. Educating yourself on what to look for can be the key to preventing an attack of mass violence in your community.

Who is to say Trump doesn’t foreshadow his extreme views before he acts?

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/106 "2024-07-18T01:30:13Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> So, you truly do think LGBTQ rights are “superficial” because they don’t apply to you, personally. This isn’t the pit, so I’ll just say that response is deplorable.

Sigh. The question in the OP is how a Trump presidency will affect me personally. _Everything_ that doesn’t affect me is superficial in this context. Why the fuck do people not respect the parameters of the question that’s posed?

Start your own thread wherein I can respond in a different context.

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-would-a-trump-election-be-for-you-personally/1003448/107 "2024-07-18T13:12:40Z")

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> [@Balthisar](#):
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> Sigh. The question in the OP is how a Trump presidency will affect me personally. _Everything_ that doesn’t affect me is superficial in this context.

I get your point, but I don’t think “superficial” is the right word for what you mean – off-topic or non-applicable. I read it as “Their concerns are frivolous.”

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