How big a star was Sharon Tate when she was killed?

[Two_Many_Cats]

@Seanette

Sort of a side note: I’m not old enough to remember the Ford Administration (I was still in utero at the time of the Tate/LaBianca murders). Does anyone who is old enough to remember know why he seemed to anger women so much? He’s the only US President to have women try to assassinate him, and two tried in under a month.

No, Ford was a pretty innocuous guy. It’s the times that were wacky. Squeaky Fromme tried because, well, Manson Family. That’s what they did.

I can’t remember Sarah Jane Moore’s motive. Nothing particularly feministic though.

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@Two_Many_Cats

My ass bleeds for them.

I’m against the death penalty, but all for murderers spending the rest of their lives in prison. These people murdered over and over again with no hesitation. Think it was just the Tate-LoBianco murders? What about Gary Hinman? Shorty Shea? Ronald Hughes? One of them tried to assassinate a president. Let 'em rot.

The one that tried to assassinate the President did 34 years. Compounded no doubt due to escaping once and continuing to be in contact with Manson. If she had done a better job reforming herself she would have been let out a lot sooner.

Young people do stupid stuff. Some of them mature over time. Take Danny Trejo. Got into a lot of trouble when young. Did time. The other day he helped rescue a baby from an upside-down car.

He’s not the same person he was then. Neither are Van Houten or Davis. (Yet Fromme probably hasn’t changed much.) Putting people in prison and throwing away the key is why the US has a phenomenal incarceration rate.

[Annie-Xmas]

@Two_Many_Cats

No, Ford was a pretty innocuous guy. It’s the times that were wacky. Squeaky Fromme tried because, well, Manson Family. That’s what they did.

I can’t remember Sarah Jane Moore’s motive. Nothing particularly feministic though.

Wiki with more on Moore.

Moore and Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme are the only two women to have attempted to assassinate an American president; both of their attempts were on Gerald Ford and both took place in California within three weeks of one another.

[Two_Many_Cats]

@ftg

He’s not the same person he was then. Neither are Van Houten or Davis. (Yet Fromme probably hasn’t changed much.) Putting people in prison and throwing away the key is why the US has a phenomenal incarceration rate.

The phenomenal incarceration rate in the US is a result of harsh drug sentences, not from keeping killers off the streets.

In life, sometimes people do things that they can’t come back from. Murder is one of those things. No matter how young you are, you know murder is wrong. This isn’t something where you can say, “Oh well, kids will be kids.”

I’m against the death penalty, but not because it’s too harsh. I’m against it because there’s too much chance that an innocent person will be executed. Killers should give up their lives. Therefore, prison. For life.

The prisoner can change and be a different person. But that doesn’t change what they did.

[Chronos]

[Moderating]

I’m seeing hardly any discussion of Sharon Tate’s career here, nor any other artistic topic. If you want to debate penalties for murder, we have a forum for that.