# How big of a misstep by MS was Kinect for Xbone?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 24, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486 "2014-03-24T23:26:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/21 "2014-03-28T14:44:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Yeah, I guess they and their enormous piles of money will have to just console one another.

I’m not sure their laid off employees have big piles of money. ☹

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/22 "2014-05-13T19:47:56Z")

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[I think we can now conclude that the Kinect was a major misstep for XB One.](http://kotaku.com/microsoft-announces-xbox-one-without-kinect-shipping-j-1575644372)

[As someone who’s been hating on the Kinect since 2010,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=585932&highlight=kinect) I hope we’ve finally seen the end of gesture-based interfaces.

By the way, VR isn’t the wave of the future either.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/23 "2014-05-13T19:53:25Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> By the way, VR isn’t the wave of the future either.

Your Sony overlords let you say that about Project Morpheus?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/24 "2014-05-13T20:06:08Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Your Sony overlords let you say that about Project Morpheus?

I’m actually working on some Morpheus titles. It’s an interesting way to play a limited category of games. However, it’s not going to replace the normal display.

The crazy thing was not that Microsoft \*offered \*the Kinect. It was an interesting experiment. The crazy thing was that they \*required \*it, when its utility as an input device was so limited.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/25 "2014-05-13T20:13:25Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Well, MS went and included the Kinect with every Xbone sold, in spite of the fact that no one wanted it and (apparently) no developers want to waste money developing for it. It seems to have driven the price up by $100, just enough to thrust the PS1 into the spotlight as the “affordable” console and it has more horsepower to boot.
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> From what I’ve read MS insists they will NEVER reneg and sell the Xbone without the Kinect. They are all in on this thing for some reason.
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> How big of a misstep was this for MS? Should someone lose their job at MS for this blunder after the strong presence of the 360?

Had Sony included their camera, there would have been price parity, more or less. As well, since the units were already built, it did not make sense at the time to strip one part off.

Now MS has real world data, and they are reacting, as the kokatu article shows. In four months, since launch, they seem to be showing a surprising amount of agility.

My own use of the kinnect so far, seems to be for the Deadrising 3 game. Ryse did not seem to make that much use of it, beyond a few phrases.

Still, I think MS went with the Kinnect system, so we would beta the technology for third party developers. MS was pretty surprised by what the system was being used for and who was using it, with the mark one system.

Declan

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-a-misstep-by-ms-was-kinect-for-xbone/684486/26 "2014-05-13T20:24:44Z")

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It bums me out.

The only darn reason I got an xbone were the kinect tie in features with it’s media center capabilities. Now that they are taking Kinect off the SKU, you can bet any improvements to those features will be on the backburner.

Playing games on an Xbone is not something I’m interested in so now I’m regretting not picking up a kindle fire TV instead of this darn thing.

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