# How big of an ego do you need to call yourself Charlamagne tha God?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 26, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470 "2020-05-26T00:29:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/1 "2020-05-26T00:29:39Z")

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Was the name Napoleon Bonaparte da Christ taken? I could understand a psychotic person with delusions of grandeur referring to themselves as Charlamagne and god.

Not even sure where I’m going with this. Something about this just rubs me wrong.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tvTRZJ-4EyI/maxresdefault.jpg "Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTRZJ-4EyI)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/2 "2020-05-26T00:47:49Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Was the name Napoleon Bonaparte da Christ taken? I could understand a psychotic person with delusions of grandeur referring to themselves as Charlamagne and god.
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> Not even sure where I’m going with this. Something about this just rubs me wrong.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTRZJ-4EyI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTRZJ-4EyI)

Because “The Great” was already taken?

Moving this to CS since it is about a radio and TV personality.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/3 "2020-05-26T00:51:05Z")

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Seven? Orange? What’s the scale?

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/4 "2020-05-26T00:56:22Z")

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After translation, that comes to Charles the Great the God

Not just egotistical, but somewhat redundant.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/5 "2020-05-26T01:00:53Z")

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> After translation, that comes to Charles the Great the God
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> Not just egotistical, but somewhat redundant.

I suggest “the trump scale”. How much of an ego does this take to call yourself a “god”?

.75 on the trump scale.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/6 "2020-05-26T01:13:07Z")

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Nobody has yet mentioned me using the handle Wesley Clark. So far so good.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/7 "2020-05-26T01:16:11Z")

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> [@King James I of England](#):
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> “Kings are justly called Gods”

James is also remembered as the sponsor of the “King James Bible”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/8 "2020-05-26T02:45:39Z")

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I have chosen God-king as my official title for two companies I started and had it on my business cards.

I’m going to vote no ego issues at all.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/9 "2020-05-28T09:57:35Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> **How big of an ego do you need to call yourself Charlamagne tha God?**

New to the world of media personalities, I take it?

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**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/10 "2020-05-28T12:05:51Z")

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He’s a 5 percenter and those dudes have been calling themselves and other black men “Gods” for at least 30-40 years. I don’t know the specifics but it’s part of his religious beliefs.

Don’t know where he got the Charlemagne part from but I have always enjoyed the moniker **Charlemagne tha God**. It speaks to a certain level of boldness and self confidence that black men are frequently discouraged from displaying to the wide world. It screams “this is how I feel about myself so fuck you and all of your cultural preferences and expectations! If you wish to speak to me or about me then you will have to use the name that I have chosen regardless of how you feel about it.”

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/11 "2020-05-28T12:17:02Z")

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CtG is one funny MFing shitstirer.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Di08pcLT-A)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/12 "2020-05-28T12:30:43Z")

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BB player and coach God Shammgod

> **[God Shammgod](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Shammgod)**
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> God Shammgod (born April 29, 1976, and formerly known as Shammgod Wells) is an American basketball coach and former professional player. He is currently a player development coach with the Dallas Mavericks. He played in the NBA with the Washington Wizards during 1997–98 after being drafted by them in the second round (17th pick) of the 1997 NBA draft. He played in the Chinese Basketball Association for several teams, including the Zhejiang Cyclones. and Shanxi Yujun. He also played professiona Wh...

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**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/13 "2020-05-28T16:06:34Z")

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Jay-Z is J-Hova and Kanye West is Yeezus. Calling yourself Charlemange is downright humble.

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**Author:** ![road\_lobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@road\_lobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/road_lobo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/14 "2020-05-28T16:08:44Z")

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> [@BeagleJesus](#):
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> He’s a 5 percenter and those dudes have been calling themselves and other black men “Gods” for at least 30-40 years. I don’t know the specifics but it’s part of his religious beliefs.

This is correct. It’s a type of positive mental affirmation. Just because CTG is a god, doesn’t mean that other (black) men can’t also be a god.

5 percenter is/was racist and sexist, but it’s a product of its time. It’s not always meant to be taken literally. cf. People who use the appelations Lord, King, Queen, Prince, Princess, in a pen name.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/15 "2020-05-28T16:22:29Z")

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Kinda balanced out by a guy who would deliberately call himself Ludacris.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/16 "2020-05-28T16:56:42Z")

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> [@BeagleJesus](#):
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> He’s a 5 percenter and those dudes have been calling themselves and other black men “Gods” for at least 30-40 years. I don’t know the specifics but it’s part of his religious beliefs.

Maybe a need to level up from black women calling themselves and each other “queens”?

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/17 "2020-05-28T17:00:06Z")

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This is the guy who won a Pulitzer?:dubious:

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**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/18 "2020-05-28T18:22:08Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Maybe a need to level up from black women calling themselves and each other “queens”?

I’m not sure what you mean by this…care to explain in a bit more detail?

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**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/19 "2020-05-28T18:24:15Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> This is the guy who won a Pulitzer?:dubious:

Kendrick Lamar was the guy who won the Pulitzer for his album DAMN.

If you’re a fan of hip-hop then I would recommend you check it out.

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**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-of-an-ego-do-you-need-to-call-yourself-charlamagne-tha-god/854470/20 "2020-05-28T18:27:00Z")

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> [@road\_lobo](#):
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> This is correct. It’s a type of positive mental affirmation. Just because CTG is a god, doesn’t mean that other (black) men can’t also be a god.
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> 5 percenter is/was racist and sexist, but it’s a product of its time. It’s not always meant to be taken literally. cf. People who use the appelations Lord, King, Queen, Prince, Princess, in a pen name.

Is it an affirmation or a tenet of the faith? I was always under the impression that it was a belief although I can’t say how literally it is supposed to be taken.

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