# How big will Biden's margin of victory be? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 29, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671 "2020-07-29T02:00:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/41 "2020-07-29T22:37:51Z")
Maybe this is true in the media sources you watch. But I can assure you that the media as a whole has given plenty of coverage to Trump’s mental stumbles. To use your analogy, Trump is Ford and Biden is Carter. Unfair, but that’s the way reality works. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/42 "2020-07-29T22:42:18Z")
Really? You think the narrative that Teump is senile is as strong as the narrative that Biden is senile? I guess we will just have to differ on that one, but I don’t think it’s even close. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/43 "2020-07-29T22:46:24Z")
Yes, I do feel that’s true. It’s Trump, not Biden, who’s feeling the need to defend himself against rumors that he’s losing his mental capabilities by telling people he passed a test. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/44 "2020-07-29T22:50:10Z")
Do you perhaps watch a lot of Fox? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/45 "2020-07-29T23:04:52Z")
Yes, why else is Trump constantly bragging about his Person Woman Man Camera TV test? ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/46 "2020-07-30T00:45:04Z")
Speaking of gaffes Trump said today Biden would have the nation at net zero carbon emissions by 2:30 > ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/47 "2020-07-30T02:09:05Z")
Some pearls of wisdom from Biden: On how to defeat the coronavirus: > “We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and … correct the public health.” Explaining what his son Hunter did: > My son’s business dealings were not anything where everybody that he’s talking about, not even remotely, number one.” When asked how he would deal with the ramifications of slavery: > Social workers help parents deal with how to raise their children. It’s not that they don’t want to help, they don’t know what to play the radio, make sure the television — excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the — make sure that kids hear words, a kid coming from a very poor school — a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there. But from the left’s stanpoint, that’s probably better than what he said when he first ran for congress: > “I’d be damned if I feel responsible to pay for something that happened 300 years ago.” ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/48 "2020-07-30T02:15:36Z")
Whatever the case in this election, it HAS to be a landslide so there’s no bullshit over a few million votes. I’m expecting news on Election Day where only six voting polls are open in the state of Texas or North Carolina. Phony proof that 20 millions mail-in votes are fraudulent. I’m also expecting what I absolutely did not think would happen in 2016– our country is that stupid. Logically, it would be a landslide for Biden— what I thought for Hillary— but polls suck. The amount of voters for Trump or SOMEONE LIKE Trump was not considered. So Biden better take all the swing states so no bullshit happens. On the other hand, this virus could scare voters from voting at a polling place. So I’m worried we’ll have less overall voters than we did last election. Therefore, Biden loses. 😳 ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/49 "2020-07-30T02:30:36Z")
Oh, and when Biden said that last bit of word salad at the Democratic debates, the moderator tried to mercifully cut him off, but he wasn’t having it: > MODERATOR: Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Biden: No, I’m going to go like the rest of them do, twice over. Because here’s the deal. The deal is that we’ve got this a little backwards. By the way, in Venezuela, we should be allowing people to come here from Venezuela. I know Maduro. I’ve confronted Maduro. You talk about the need to do something in Latin America. I’m the guy that came up with $740 million, to see to it those three countries, in fact, changed their system to people don’t have to chance to leave. You’re acting like we just discovered this yesterday. Thank you very much. On ABC news he was asked to comment on Trump’s claim that the ‘cure’ for coronavirus (the lockdowns) could be worse than the disease: > ABC reporter: “Are you at all concerned, as Trump said, that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?” Haines asked. > Biden: We have to take care of the cure, that will make the problem worse no matter what. No matter what. We know what has to be done." There’s a reason the Biden campaign is limiting his availability. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/50 "2020-07-30T02:42:48Z")
You can post all the off-the-cuff malapropisms you want, but it doesn’t prove your case that Biden is more vulnerable on this issue than Trump. > Do you think Joe Biden has the mental soundness to serve effectively as president? > Yes 47% > No 39 > Do you think Donald Trump has the mental soundness to serve effectively as president? > Yes 43% > No 51 From [this Fox News poll](https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/07/Fox_July-12-15-2020_Complete_National_Topline_July-19-Release.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/51 "2020-07-30T02:51:14Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > By this point we can pretty much rule out the possibility of Biden winning by less than 100 electoral votes. He is stacking up a big margin overall, even in historically purple or reddish states. This is a preposterous statement this far out from the election, and especially given Republican dirty tricks. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/52 "2020-07-30T03:03:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This is a preposterous statement this far out from the election, and especially given Republican dirty tricks. Agreed. This is an utterly preposterous thread. Trump has a path to victory, just like in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/53 "2020-07-30T06:07:20Z")
The solid evidence is that trump is either senile or insane. That "narrative’ is a falsehood spread by Biden foes. And those gaffes have hurt Joe over 30 years of public service. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/54 "2020-07-30T06:08:21Z")
what does all that bullshit have to do with the OP? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/55 "2020-07-30T06:16:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Some pearls of wisdom from Biden: You’re listing the kind of evidence that will only convince somebody who really wants to be convinced. But most people aren’t desperately looking for reasons to vote for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@chappachula1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/56 "2020-07-30T06:42:33Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Do you perhaps watch a lot of Fox? yes, I do\*…and so do most swing voters. And that’s why I think Trump will win. It is the still-undecideds who will determine the election results. And they are undecided mostly because they don’t pay much attention to politics. So when they finally get around to paying some attention, Fox news is going to make a much bigger impact on their decisions than, say, reading the fine print of the NY Times. * * * \*Every day, I read the Fox website before going to the NY Times. (Know your enemy, and all that stuff.) ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/57 "2020-07-30T12:56:50Z")
negative 100 EVs ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/58 "2020-07-30T13:44:49Z")
When you’ve been in public service as long as Biden has, you’re going to find a few verbal missteps here and there. Particularly so when you have overcome speech difficulties. These of course fade into complete insignificance to what Putin’s bitch says intentionally on an hourly basis. And over time people’s opinions develop. Can you find things that Biden said in the past that would be considered racially insensitive today? Sure. But the man has grown as a person, unlike Putin’s bitch. So go ahead and run clips of Biden from decades ago, it isn’t going to work when your guy is at present a clear and present danger to democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/59 "2020-07-30T13:55:11Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > Speaking of gaffes Trump said today Biden would have the nation at net zero carbon emissions by 2:30 Well, he’d better get cracking. It’s already 9:55. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671/60 "2020-07-30T14:13:41Z")
> [@chappachula1](#): > > yes, I do\* [watch Fox News] …and so do most swing voters. I would love a cite for this, because otherwise I have no reason to think it’s true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-big-will-bidens-margin-of-victory-be/916671.md?page=4)