# How Can 59,054,087 People Be So Dumb? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995 "2004-11-04T17:09:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/1 "2004-11-04T17:09:19Z")
Leave it to the Brits to come up with the [perfect headline](http://www.mirror.co.uk/frontpages/). I wish our own press had the balls to be this blunt. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/2 "2004-11-04T17:12:38Z")
And yet, you deride anyone linking to NewsMax. Hmmm. I am kind of surprised that this wasn’t printed in the US, though. Those cheeky Brits. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/3 "2004-11-04T17:14:52Z")
How can some peoeple continue to whine so much? I didn’t vote for the guy either, yet I think that I’m getting over it pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/4 "2004-11-04T17:15:07Z")
I knew this would end up in the PIT but I didn’t think the OP would be positive 😃 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/5 "2004-11-04T17:15:20Z")
My did lives on France. He was saying Europe thinks we’re fucking nuts. Any intl dopers want to shed some light? ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/6 "2004-11-04T17:15:56Z")
Is it going to be like this for the next 4 years with you? Because it’s hard to consider paying $20 a year just for the privilege of hearing you spout off about the president in every other thread. Could you not have posted this article in one of the other 158 election-bashing threads you’re subscribed to? Of course, I realize it would have been significantly more difficult to convince entirely new crops of Dopers what a nutjob you are, but I’m sure you would have managed somehow. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/7 "2004-11-04T17:17:20Z")
I haven’t had any coffee today as you may tell. …_in_ France… Although I suppose he lives _on_ France as well. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/8 "2004-11-04T17:17:50Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Leave it to the Brits to come up with the [perfect headline](http://www.mirror.co.uk/frontpages/). > > I wish our own press had the balls to be this blunt. It’s a tabloid. What did you expect? ---
**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/9 "2004-11-04T17:21:53Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > My did lives on France. He was saying Europe thinks we’re fucking nuts. Any intl dopers want to shed some light? Yeah, pretty much. Even if you don’t take into account the Iraq war, you have to remember that, even without a Labour government, we in the UK are significantly to the left politically of the US and that France and the rest of western Europe are even further to the left of us. The prospect of another four years of the so-called “leader of the free world” being that right-wing is pretty scary. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/10 "2004-11-04T17:22:01Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > It’s a tabloid. What did you expect? I’m more concerned that Hannibal Lechter is on the loose!! (scroll down that page) ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/11 "2004-11-04T17:24:01Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > I haven’t had any coffee today as you may tell. > > …_in_ France… > > Although I suppose he lives _on_ France as well. Living on France isn’t bad enough? You want the poor man to live IN France as well? I trust you’ll at least give him a breathing tube. You cruel, heartless offspring. :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/12 "2004-11-04T17:24:22Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > My did lives on France. He was saying Europe thinks we’re fucking nuts. Any intl dopers want to shed some light? Shed light on what? That the majority of Europeans can’t understand when the chimp was voted back? I say yep that’s what the majority is thinking. I for one just can’t see how the fucker got so much support but there ya go. But as to this incident making us think you lot are nuts I’d have to disagree. We’ve thought that for a while now but in a good way. Alas that is changing somewhat due to silly ignorant feelings of some sort of superiority from some sections of European thinking. Feelings are somewhat harder against a lot of American thinking but then again a lot of you folks over there don’t seem to hold us in high regard either. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/13 "2004-11-04T17:26:55Z")
You gotta knock that shit off, **Doggy Knees** because from here on out, we are the Party that loves God, Guns, and America more than the Pubs do. We love God so much that we want to keep the church safe from government (SOCAS). We love guns so much that we want to keep them safe for citines and not criminals (gun control) We love America so much that we will invest more in her and her people (spending on infrastructure). We are going to beat the Pubs at their own game. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/14 "2004-11-04T17:27:25Z")
Best headline ever! > [@World Eater](#): > > Although I suppose he lives _on_ France as well. And he is your _did_? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/15 "2004-11-04T17:29:03Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > You gotta knock that shit off, **Doggy Knees** because from here on out, we are the Party that loves God, Guns, and America more than the Pubs do. > > We love God so much that we want to keep the church safe from government (SOCAS). > > We love guns so much that we want to keep them safe for citines and not criminals (gun control) > > We love America so much that we will invest more in her and her people (spending on infrastructure). > > We are going to beat the Pubs at their own game. **Gobear** for DNC Chairman! Down with McAuliffe!!! ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/16 "2004-11-04T17:30:00Z")
Not all of the rest of the industrialised democratic world has spent years talking to Americans on the Straight Dope in order to understand how Bush could possibly be re-elected. Christ, I **have** , and even _I_ can;t really answer the headline’s question, except by reference to outright [dishonesty](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283398). ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/17 "2004-11-04T17:30:53Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > You gotta knock that shit off, **Doggy Knees** because from here on out, we are the Party that loves God, Guns, and America more than the Pubs do. > > We love God so much that we want to keep the church safe from government (SOCAS). > > We love guns so much that we want to keep them safe for citines and not criminals (gun control) > > We love America so much that we will invest more in her and her people (spending on infrastructure). > > We are going to beat the Pubs at their own game. Actually this is what I fear. The dems are going to morph into “them” to get a piece of their action. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/18 "2004-11-04T17:31:58Z")
> [@cityboy916](#): > > Best headline ever! > > And he is your _did_? 😃 Send coffee STAT! ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/19 "2004-11-04T17:33:50Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > How can some peoeple continue to whine so much? > > I didn’t vote for the guy either, yet I think that I’m getting over it pretty quickly. Let me take a run at this. See, the thing is that this administration is actively hostile to the values that many of us hold. To be blunt, a lot of us feel that we are under attack and living in a hostile environment. We are scared and don’t know what to do. We pretty much just want to live out our lives in peace, and don’t understand why it is that steps are being taken to prevent that. To be honest, I am getting pretty fucking tired of this being dismissed and “whineing”. Frankly, being so insensitive to the very real concerns and beliefs of close to half of your countrymen is unseemly and rude. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995/20 "2004-11-04T17:34:08Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > My did lives on France. He was saying Europe thinks we’re fucking nuts. Any intl dopers want to shed some light? I’ve not met anyone here in London who’s pleased Bush was re-elected. Most, however, can see that the alternative wasn’t exactly stellar. No-one’s particularly surprised. That said, the Mirror is a godawful pile of shite not fit for wrapping fish and chips. The best thing I can say of it is that if I were given the choice of reading the Mirror or the Daily Mail, I would beat myself to death with the Mirror to avoid reading either. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-59-054-087-people-be-so-dumb/272995.md?page=2)