# How can a loving God let Johnny M post here? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814 "2006-11-26T03:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/21 "2006-11-26T15:43:21Z")
[QUOTE=EJsGirl] Huh? Babe, you are _way_ off track… 😃 [/QUOTE] Shhhhhh… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/22 "2006-11-26T15:47:20Z")
[QUOTE=Boo Boo Foo] It’s just a fucking messageboard dude. You’re like a teenage highschool bitch who needs the safety of numbers before you can feel any self esteem. For fucks sake, that’s immature. [/QUOTE] :dubious: I find it hard to believe you’ve been here since 2002 and can make such an erronious statement about **Eve**. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/23 "2006-11-26T15:48:54Z")
Lame. He’s new. He’s only started two GD threads, and he did return to one of them. If anyone is violating rules in those threads it’s a [hijacking bitch](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7996775&postcount=14) who can’t be bothered to give a newbie the benefit of the doubt or some constructive criticism. Could you have at least tried to address some of his points? ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/24 "2006-11-26T15:56:55Z")
Better to link to the whole thread with a post # for reference. Linking to a stand-alone post doesn’t allow people to see the context or flow of the conversation, or let them determine if the post matches your description. Lame, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/25 "2006-11-26T16:09:13Z")
[QUOTE=EJsGirl] Lame, indeed. [/QUOTE] :rolleyes: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7996775&postcount=14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7996775&postcount=14) Is that better? It was one of the threads linked in the OP so I figured that people weighing in would have at least scanned them and been familiar with the general flow of things. I assumed that any dipshit could figure out how to see the whole thread from a linked post if they needed to do so. Care to actually address my point? We’re supposed to fight ignorance here. We had an opportunity, an obligation actually, to at least try to educate this guy. Instead, in a GD thread, we got amongst a couple of good replies, a bunch of bitchy mocking. How is ganging up on him going to help him learn. Give the new guy a chance at least. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/26 "2006-11-26T17:46:06Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] Instead, in a GD thread, we got amongst a couple of good replies, a bunch of bitchy mocking. How is ganging up on him going to help him learn. [/QUOTE] Coming from you, this is funny. The only times I can remember your name lately are in this thread, mocking **Eve** , and in another thread mocking **Guin**. So you’re allowed to mock bitchily but others are supposed to be kind? ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/27 "2006-11-26T18:00:35Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I assumed that any dipshit could figure out how to see the whole thread from a linked post if they needed to do so. [/QUOTE] Obviously, I am not just **any** dipshit! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/28 "2006-11-26T18:01:48Z")
Hey, i’ve learned something. Dipshit is not just a British insult. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/29 "2006-11-26T18:02:30Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Hmph. :mad: Maybe I should stick to limericks. :dubious: [/QUOTE] “There once was a God from Nantucket…?” ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/30 "2006-11-26T18:13:24Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] So you’re allowed to mock bitchily but others are supposed to be kind? [/QUOTE] Show me where I mocked someone bitchily in GD. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/31 "2006-11-26T18:18:33Z")
Hit submit too soon… Show me where I mocked someone bitchily in GD or where I behaved rudely to a newbie. This behavior is fine in The Pit or, to a certain extent, to a non-guest. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/32 "2006-11-26T18:33:50Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] Hit submit too soon.. Show me where I mocked someone bitchily in GD or where I behaved rudely to a newbie. This behavior is fine in The Pit or, to a certain extent, to a non-guest. [/QUOTE] Why? If it’s all about fighting ignorance, and if you think that bitchy mocking is incompatible with fighting ignorance, then what the hell are you doing mocking bitchily in any forum? If you’re worried about the rules, report the post. I don’t think it crosses any GD line. I wouldn’t consider it even close. But that’s not my call. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/33 "2006-11-26T18:40:34Z")
[QUOTE=williambaskerville] Any god who would preside over the horrors of this world, and would later answer for them by saying he had to let them happen to prove an obscure theological point about free will, or to establish “it’ll all work out,somehow” (which seems to be Johnny M’s point, in so far as he has one), is a miserable, snivelling cur, unworthy of attention, let alone worship. [/QUOTE] Oh, I don’t know. I think it’s worth paying attention to him so that you can club him like a baby harp seal. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/34 "2006-11-26T18:44:22Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] In the beginning (of the board), there was a series of Great God Debates that featured **Eve** and **Satan** debating with Adam ( **ARG220** ), moderated by **Gaud** (ere). In terms of life imitating archetype, we’ve only gone downhill since then! 😃 [/QUOTE] Can I at least claim that I’m of the Nephilim? I know it’s a stretch, but I’m all about mating with the daughters of Men. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/35 "2006-11-26T18:49:21Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Hmph. :mad: Maybe I should stick to limericks. :dubious: [/QUOTE] No way! Big drunken golf clap! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/36 "2006-11-26T19:03:22Z")
[QUOTE=ExTank] > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Hmph. :mad: > > Maybe I should stick to limericks. :dubious: “There once was a God from Nantucket…?” [/QUOTE] A wrathful old God from Mount Sinai, In a voice querulous and whinai, Said, “You may, without sin, Judge friends, neighbors, and kin, But thou shalt not have sex in the hinai!” ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/37 "2006-11-26T19:13:44Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Why? If it’s all about fighting ignorance, and if you think that bitchy mocking is incompatible with fighting ignorance, then what the hell are you doing mocking bitchily in any forum? [/quote] Why have different forums at all then? C’mon. **Eve** wasn’t trying to gain new knowledge in the OP. She was Pitting someone. I disagreed with the Pitting. Let’s, just for fun, actually address the OP and my disagreement with it, if you are so inclined. I think that it is premature to call this guy a troll. He has only posted seven times and started two OPs. If he were spamming or posting a huge amount of posts, I would have agreed. If he posted something like that but with more venom in the Pit, I would have agreed. He was acused of “hit and run” tactics which turned out not to be true. He did come back to one of the two threads. He does, indeed, present some weak theological arguments but he could be young and poorly informed. This is a good opportunity to try and teach him something until he proves himself to be unable or unwilling to learn. He is new and should be given the benefit of the doubt. If you posted a GD and were mocked by me or **Eve** , you would at least know the players and could say, “Oh that’s just **hajario** / **Eve** , he/she is just being a dickhead/cutie.” Guests should be treated differently at first. I did report the post just for the hell of it but I am less concerned about it breaking the rules than it just being my opinion that that was the incorrect approach towards this guy. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/38 "2006-11-26T19:21:31Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] A wrathful old God from Mount Sinai, In a voice querulous and whinai, Said, “You may, without sin, Judge friends, neighbors, and kin, But thou shalt not have sex in the hinai!” [/QUOTE] A commanding old God from the heavens, Said “Take creatures aboard in their sevens, Of birds on the wing, And beasties of sin, Only two, for they shall not be leavens”. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/39 "2006-11-26T19:28:18Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I did report the post just for the hell of it but I am less concerned about it breaking the rules than it just being my opinion that that was the incorrect approach towards this guy. [/QUOTE] While I disagree that this particular poster shows any signs of being worth worrying about, if you had said the above initially I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. The pitting is probably premature, I guess. Two threads are easy to ignore. Your reaction to the pitting seemed over the top, calling someone a “hijacking bitch” for commenting on someone’s lack of apostrophes? It is the pit, of course, so I’m not saying you can’t be as insulting as you want. But since it seemed you were calling for fighting ignorance through kindness, it struck me as funny. Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/40 "2006-11-26T19:42:42Z")
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