# How can a loving God let Johnny M post here? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814 "2006-11-26T03:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/61 "2006-11-26T23:49:04Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] OK, you’re obviously spoiling for a personal fight here, but I ain’t playing. [/QUOTE] Good for you. \*\*Hajario \*\*isn’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/62 "2006-11-26T23:53:45Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] OK, you’re obviously spoiling for a personal fight here, but I ain’t playing. [/QUOTE] What makes you think that it’s personal? I could be wrong but I don’t believe that we’re interacted before and I generally like your posts. You started this thread, you should back it up. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/63 "2006-11-26T23:59:56Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] What makes you think that it’s personal? I could be wrong but I don’t believe that we’re interacted before and I generally like your posts. You started this thread, you should back it up. [/QUOTE] You’re kidding, right? I’m thinking it got kind of personal when you called her a hijacking bitch. That’s how you (impersonally) interact with someone for the first time? Nice mouth. You kiss your mother with it? ---
**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/64 "2006-11-27T00:00:06Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] … You started this thread, you should back it up. [/QUOTE] Great. Now say that to **johnny M**. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/65 "2006-11-27T00:02:51Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] You’re kidding, right? I’m thinking it got kind of personal when you called her a hijacking bitch. That’s how you (impersonally) interact with someone for the first time? Nice mouth. You kiss your mother with it? [/QUOTE] She was being a bitch, in my opinion, and I called her on it. I would have done the same to anyone else which is what I meant by “it wasn’t personal.” ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/66 "2006-11-27T00:22:04Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] She was being a bitch, in my opinion, and I called her on it. I would have done the same to anyone else which is what I meant by “it wasn’t personal.” [/QUOTE] It is not at all clear to me that lodging a personal insult against someone becomes “not personal” simply because you would do the same to anyone else. If an insult is specifically directed at me, as yours was to her, I take it personally; if the perpetrator protests that he is a jerk to one and all, I am unimpressed. He was a jerk to me, and that, by definition, makes it personal. You were a jerk to her. If, as you claim, you generally like her posts, why the invective in your first encounter? Why not just point out what you consider to be a contradiction? ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/67 "2006-11-27T00:25:35Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] A wrathful old God from Mount Sinai, In a voice querulous and whinai, Said, “You may, without sin, Judge friends, neighbors, and kin, But thou shalt not have sex in the hinai!” [/QUOTE] Great Scott. Who would have thought that **ETF’s** was a poetic high point in the thread? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/68 "2006-11-27T00:43:30Z")
[QUOTE=David Simmons] Great Scott. Who would have thought that **ETF’s** was a poetic high point in the thread? [/QUOTE] 😕 :dubious: HEY! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/69 "2006-11-27T00:44:15Z")
Ouch, indeed. Not that I don’t agree with you. _Leavens?_ ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/70 "2006-11-27T01:15:35Z")
There once was a doper named Hajario who drives, we heard, a crappy Geo. He misplaced an apostrophe “Crap! Fark me in the bum and call me **Sophie**!” and then boarded the next plane to Terra Del Fuego. I haven’t done a limerick since last century. I really shows. [size=1]I blame society.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/71 "2006-11-27T01:29:06Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] who drives, we heard, a crappy Geo. [/QUOTE] Whew! I missed it by a year. My Metro is a Chevrolet. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@johnny\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnny_M)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/72 "2006-11-27T02:23:28Z")
🙂 [QUOTE=Eve] This [illiterate](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=397622) [dine-and-dash](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=397587)troll, with his inexplicable hatred of possessive apotrophes, only makes actual right-wing Christian fundies look like the height of reasonableness. Sadly, he’ll be banned soon, as he’s not coming back to actually debate anything. Some animals aren’t even fun to poke with sticks. Let’s have some amusingly wild-eyed rants and illogical “responses” from him, so we can play with him before eating him! [/QUOTE] " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. Whether you agree or not isn!t important, talking about God is. Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/73 "2006-11-27T02:31:55Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] It is not at all clear to me that lodging a personal insult against someone becomes “not personal” simply because you would do the same to anyone else. If an insult is specifically directed at me, as yours was to her, I take it personally; if the perpetrator protests that he is a jerk to one and all, I am unimpressed. He was a jerk to me, and that, by definition, makes it personal. [/quote] This is getting to be a semantic argument. Yes, by your definition is it was personal. So then was you saying that I am a person not even worth talking to. That’s a worse insult in my opinion. It’s also totally fair game. > [@](#): > > You were a jerk to her. If, as you claim, you generally like her posts, why the invective in your first encounter? Why not just point out what you consider to be a contradiction? She was a complete jerk to **johnny**. I hate it when people play pile on the newb. That shit used to be rampant around here right before pay to post. Like most newbies, **johnny** was an easy target. He never did come back. Maybe he was a troll, maybe he got busy and will come back or maybe he got intimidated and left but could have turned into someone who learned and grew and paid a membership fee to keep us going. Look at **Miller** ’s response in post #23. He was plenty snarky but he addressed the issues and did a damn fine job of it. As I said earlier, **Polycarp** also made an excellent post. Neither one of them was easy on **johnny** but they at least addressed the issue in an intelligent way. That’s what I would expect in a GD thread. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/74 "2006-11-27T02:32:56Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] 🙂 " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. Whether you agree or not isn!t important, talking about God is. Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." [/QUOTE] And look who’s back. Don’t let me down, kid. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/75 "2006-11-27T03:16:47Z")
**johnny M** - you know, unless you go back to your other threads and address the some of the arguments put forth, lots of undecided people are going to read them and reject Christianity. You will be the direct cause of these people burning in Hell of all eternity, because you’re too busy with the worldly temptations of NYC. Don’t let the bright lights of the big city distract you from your responsibility! ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/76 "2006-11-27T03:18:32Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] 🙂 " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. Whether you agree or not isn!t important, talking about God is. Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." [/QUOTE] I thought spreading the word of God was the exact opposite of getting people to think, but it’s obvious from your inability to distinguish between the apostrophe key and the punctuation mark key (which are on _opposite ends of the goddamn keyboard_, for Chrissakes) that you’re operating on a different level. Why, exactly, do you think it’s important that we talk about God? Personally, I can’t see what possible difference it could make to anything whether God existed or not. The more God freaks like you I run into, though, certainly help to convince me that if God does exist, he’d pretty much have to be an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/77 "2006-11-27T03:19:59Z")
Damn! “Exclamation point key”, not “punctuation mark key”. Knew I’d fucking Gaudere it there. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/78 "2006-11-27T03:40:24Z")
Is anybody else mentally thinking “hiccup” every time “!” is used in one of **johnny’s** posts? Yeah. (Good call, **Eve**!) ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/79 "2006-11-27T03:47:24Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] (which are on _opposite ends of the goddamn keyboard_, for Chrissakes) [/QUOTE] I bet he’s using a portable device, maybe even handwriting recognition. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/80 "2006-11-27T03:52:14Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] 🙂 " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. Whether you agree or not isn!t important, talking about God is. Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." [/QUOTE] Please stop, as you are making my side look irretrievably stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814.md?page=5)