# How can a loving God let Johnny M post here? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814 "2006-11-26T03:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/81 "2006-11-27T03:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=Kythereia] Please stop, as you are making my side look irretrievably stupid. [/QUOTE] Yeah! You guys get enough help from folks like Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, and Ted Haggard as it is! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/82 "2006-11-27T04:02:00Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] Yeah! You guys get enough help from folks like Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, and Ted Haggard as it is! šŸ˜ƒ [/QUOTE] Donā€™t forget Jack Chick and Fred Phelps. It makes me feel like that line of chanting monks in _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_: ā€œPie Jesu domineā€¦ _thwack with the Bible_ā€ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/83 "2006-11-27T04:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=Kythereia] Please stop, as you are making my side look irretrievably stupid. [/QUOTE] Not necessarily. Presented next to **Johnny M** ā€™s posts, your side, your back, hell probably even the soles of your feet all look significantly smarter than they might normally appear. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/84 "2006-11-27T04:03:11Z")
For those of you scoring at home, we have: **Eve** ā€“the OP, who brings us a timely and relevant pitting. **Johnny M** ā€“the pittee, clearly a fuckwit, and likely a troll. I find it difficult to accept he actually believes the crap that spews from his keyboard. ā€œLetā€™s get justice for the poor oppressed John 3:16 sign guyā€. Bullshit. **Hajiro** ā€“random asshole, rarely seen here lately, yet has over 5K posts. Oddly, he chooses to attack the OP for reasons that are not entirely clear. **Boo Foo Foo** ā€“stupid name, stupid poster. **Johnny M** , the only thing your posts have got people thinking is that youā€™re an idiot. I got a feeling you wonā€™t be around here very long. I wonā€™t miss ya when youā€™re gone. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/85 "2006-11-27T04:15:23Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] For those of you scoring at home, we have: **Johnny M** ā€“the pittee, clearly a fuckwit, and likely a troll. I find it difficult to accept he actually believes the crap that spews from his keyboard. ā€œLetā€™s get justice for the poor oppressed John 3:16 sign guyā€. Bullshit. [/QUOTE] Forgot the link to the (now locked) thread: > **[Rainbowman Rollen Stewart](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=397553)** > > I have been in contact with Rollen Stewart. Its ironic that he received 3 lifetime sentences without ever hurting anyone physically. He has served 13 years in prision and to me it seems that he is at the end of his rope. Even John Gotti received 1... ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/86 "2006-11-27T04:23:14Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] **Hajiro** ā€“random asshole, rarely seen here lately, yet has over 5K posts. Oddly, he chooses to attack the OP for reasons that are not entirely clear. [/QUOTE] Itā€™s **hajario** , and I wouldnā€™t call him an asshole (in general), I donā€™t agree with his comments about **Eve** in this thread, but Iā€™ve not seen him do similar before. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/87 "2006-11-27T04:28:42Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] šŸ™‚ " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. [/QUOTE] Sure, people are talking about ā€œGod,ā€ but mostly theyā€™re talking about how stupid certain of his followers seem. If I walk by a restaurant and notice a guy drunkenly vomiting in the front window, I might talk about the restaurant, but not in a way thatā€™s going to lead to my eating there. Not all exposure is good exposure, and the exposure youā€™re providing to your religion is negative. If you really believe in your responsibility to evangelize, youā€™ve got to do some more work. Evangelism isnā€™t just self-satisfied, easy, smirking drive-by postings; itā€™s hard as hell to do correctly. And thereā€™s the opposite of evangelism, which consists of making your religion look idiotic; thatā€™s what youā€™re currently doing. I just want to get you thinking. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/88 "2006-11-27T04:32:17Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] Itā€™s **hajario** , and I wouldnā€™t call him an asshole (in general), I donā€™t agree with his comments about **Eve** in this thread, but Iā€™ve not seen him do similar before. [/QUOTE] [TheRock] It doesnā€™t matter what his name is! [/TheRock] Jumping on Eve is bad enough, but leaping to the defense of an obvious fuckwit like **Johnny M** is the main reason for dubbing him an asshole. Maybe Iā€™m cynical, but when a guy makes his debut with the type of threads linked in the OP, in my experience itā€™s just a matter of time before the inevitable banning. Interweb meltdown pseudo-drama is offered as a side order. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/89 "2006-11-27T07:19:08Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] You were a jerk to her. If, as you claim, you generally like her posts, why the invective in your first encounter? Why not just point out what you consider to be a contradiction? [/QUOTE] Yes, like everybody else does in this forum. And in this thread. Posters use invective against others for one of two reasons. Some will use it because thatā€™s what they are like in real life. Others, and the number will be greater, are abusive here merely because they can be. Thereā€™s no rule against that in this forum and therein lies a problem which has exercised my brain for some time now. Iā€™d really like to see everybody on some of these Pit threads in the same room discussing the same issues, and hear what kind of invective comes up in such discussions. Iā€™ll lay a short price the abuse would diminish. Thatā€™s because many people here tend to hide behind the anonymity provided by a message board and, as such, would not have the courage to articulate their views using the same terminology. That is why this forum is far more divorced from real life than all the others put together. I donā€™t have a horse in this particular race because, in my opinion, **Eve** is perfectly entitled to pit **johnny M** and **hajario** is just as entitled to disagree with her. The fact that he uses invective in a first encounter (or any encounter) with Eve doesnā€™t make him a special case. He just joins a queue behind others who do exactly the same thing, often without being taken to task for it. Sometimes it just depends who you are and who you are abusing. Naturally, anyone who disagrees with me can just fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/90 "2006-11-27T08:10:21Z")
A Doper (an ass) named hajario Picked a fight for which soon he was sorry; ā€œO Eve,ā€ he saidā€“too lateā€“ ā€œI must capitulate.ā€ And tearfully swallowed curare.\* \*O. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/91 "2006-11-27T09:03:53Z")
**Eveā€™s** thread was a good idea at first Until **Hajario** came in with a burst Of bluster and bluff And nebulous fluff That damned him, and now he is cursed. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/92 "2006-11-27T13:08:41Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] ā€¦ Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." [/QUOTE] And yet youā€™ve obviously returned several times to post in other threads. If your views have any value, you should have no trouble supporting them. If you want them taken seriously, take the time to discuss, elaborate and defend them. Otherwise, piss off. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/93 "2006-11-27T14:23:49Z")
[QUOTE=Chez Guevara] I donā€™t have a horse in this particular race because, in my opinion, **Eve** is perfectly entitled to pit **johnny M** and **hajario** is just as entitled to disagree with her. The fact that he uses invective in a first encounter (or any encounter) with Eve doesnā€™t make him a special case. He just joins a queue behind others who do exactly the same thing, often without being taken to task for it. Sometimes it just depends who you are and who you are abusing. [/QUOTE] My complaint is not against his use of invective. It is about his mealy-mouthed assertion that it was not personal, and his lame attempt to justify that assertion. [QUOTE=hajario] This is getting to be a semantic argument. Yes, by your definition is it was personal. So then was you saying that I am a person not even worth talking to. Thatā€™s a worse insult in my opinion. Itā€™s also totally fair game. [/QUOTE] Since I never said that, you can go ahead and get all uninsulted. What I said was that you were not worth getting into this fight with, and judging by the weak way you have attempted to carry your argument in this thread, I was right. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/94 "2006-11-27T15:39:37Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] šŸ™‚ " I want to thank you for helping to spread the word of God. Now this thread is getting people to think. Whether you agree or not isn!t important, talking about God is. Sorry I don!t spend every minute on the internet but I happen to live in a little town perhaps you!ve heard of it New York, N.Y. and there are many other things to do than sit in front of this machine." [/QUOTE] Itā€™s not getting people to thinkā€¦itā€™s getting people to _laugh_. And for that, I thank YOU! Religion as comedy. I think Iā€™m onto something here! ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/95 "2006-11-27T15:49:26Z")
There once was a newbā€™ who got Eveā€™d And for that, other posters were peeved On his bible he thumped, Punctuation he dumped All in all, his post left us quite skeeved. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/96 "2006-11-27T15:51:05Z")
alll in all, I think Iā€™m glad I never got involved w/a limerick thread. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/97 "2006-11-27T15:56:32Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Since I never said that, you can go ahead and get all uninsulted. What I said was that you were not worth getting into this fight with, and judging by the weak way you have attempted to carry your argument in this thread, I was right. [/QUOTE] Fair enough but I am not at all insulted. ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@johnny\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnny_M)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/98 "2006-11-27T16:52:32Z")
always open to dabate. posted today at 11:50 a.m. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/99 "2006-11-27T17:05:34Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] always open to dabate. posted today at 11:50 a.m. [/QUOTE] You contain so much stupid that it oozes from your pores. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814/100 "2006-11-27T17:16:35Z")
[QUOTE=wring] alll in all, I think Iā€™m glad I never got involved w/a limerick thread. [/QUOTE] A serious Doper named **wring** Said, ā€œJoking posts are not my thing. I wonā€™t be caught dead In a limerick thread.ā€ To be subject of one has to sting! šŸ˜ƒ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-loving-god-let-johnny-m-post-here/381814.md?page=6)