# How can a woman rape a man? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 26, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813 "2006-11-26T02:51:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FRDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e68b1a/32.png) [@FRDE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FRDE)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/21 "2006-11-26T11:04:26Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] IIRC, some years ago in Europe, a woman kidnaped, bound, and raped an LDS missionary. Since he was tied up, he didn’t have a lot of say in the matter. [/QUOTE] Spot on ! Joyce McKinney London UK 1977 **warning! Not safe for work link below** > **[Joyce McKinney](http://www.trashfiction.co.uk/mckinney.html)** > > Trash Fiction Too much to post, but it had the UK in stitches > [@](#): > > We could hardly wait for the real thing, the actual trial, when Ms McKinney would be charged with kidnapping. (The charge of rape could not then brought when the victim was a man, and anyway there wasn’t anyone in the country who gave a toss about the alleged victim of the alleged crime: the prevailing opinion then - as it would probably be now - was that he must have enjoyed it. Curious double-standards we sometimes display, no?) ---
**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/22 "2006-11-26T16:45:17Z")
Am I the only one who upon reading the OP’s subject line, began hearing in their head the song from the musical **My Fair Lady** , [Why Can’t a Woman Be More Like A Man?](http://www.reelclassics.com/Musicals/Fairlady/lyrics/fairlady-whycantawoman.htm) _Why can’t a woman take after a man? Men are so pleasant, so easy to please…_ ---
**Author:** ![Mathochist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Mathochist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathochist)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/23 "2006-11-26T19:34:18Z")
[QUOTE=pkbites] The Op used the term “RAPE” in a semantic sense, not a specific legal definition. That generic sense seems to imply what we now refer to as “sexual assault” or like terms. [/QUOTE] I was modulating **Otto** ’s comment, which first broached the legal sense of rape. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/24 "2006-11-26T19:51:41Z")
In addition to statutory rape (which was excluded in the OP, though relevant to my comment), “rape” legally and in common usage includes, in addition to forcible intercourse, any intercourse in which coercion is used to elicit cooperation, including those in which the raper is in a position of authority over the rapee. The woman office manager with the hots for the office boy, the female sergeant with a yen for one of her privates (and her private’s privates), the high school teacher, etc. And, contrary to the amusing fantasies that no doubt crop up, it’s easy to imagine situations where the male does not **want** sex with the female. For any of the above scenarios, make the woman a Roseanne Barr lookalike and the guy happily married or engaged and with a moral sense to want to stick to the commitment to his wife/fiancee. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/25 "2006-11-26T22:18:22Z")
Thanks, **FRDE**. You might’ve mentioned that the images on that site are NSFW (especially as I’m accessing the board from a public middle school–yes, it’s a boy’s middle school, but you know how administrators can be). ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/26 "2006-11-27T02:18:02Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Demonstrating Carson’s ignorance. A young man in reasonable health can get some mighty hard erections whether he wants them or not - as Carson, being male, should have known. [/QUOTE] Caron was, get this, a comedian. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/27 "2006-11-27T02:48:02Z")
In some states, you can be charged with rape if you’re party to a rape, even if you don’t perform intercourse. For instance, if two men grab a women, but only one actually penetrates, both men can be charged with rape. Under that principle, some women have been convicted of rape because they helped a man rape another woman. ---
**Author:** ![Pineapple\_Express](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@Pineapple\_Express](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pineapple_Express)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/28 "2006-11-27T02:52:30Z")
I’m pretty sure that a woman putting on a strap-on and sodomizing a man would constitute rape, as infrequently (I hope) as that would happen. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/29 "2006-11-27T02:58:55Z")
[QUOTE=RealityChuck] In some states, you can be charged with rape if you’re party to a rape, even if you don’t perform intercourse. For instance, if two men grab a women, but only one actually penetrates, both men can be charged with rape. Under that principle, some women have been convicted of rape because they helped a man rape another woman. [/QUOTE] I’ve heard of instances where a woman was simply in the same building as a rape and was charged with it, because she didn’t render assistance. (She knew _something_ was going on, but didn’t necessarily know that the victim was being raped.) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/30 "2006-11-27T03:35:44Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Or more specifically how can a woman force a man to perform vaginal intercourse on her? [/QUOTE] Um. Although I’m not sure if I regret mentioning this on the boards or not, this happened to me when I was fifteen quite frequently for a while, until I was able to remove myself from the situation. I think **friedo** and **Kimstu** provided concise answers straight away, and I don’t know that adding any detail to that would be terribly helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/31 "2006-11-27T09:25:43Z")
[QUOTE=Red Barchetta] Caron was, get this, a comedian. [/QUOTE] Of course. And “_Confucius say: Rape impossible - Woman with skirt up run much faster than man with trousers down_” is a joke… and possibly one that has no place in a discussion about rape. ---
**Author:** ![FRDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e68b1a/32.png) [@FRDE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FRDE)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/32 "2006-11-27T10:10:28Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] Thanks, **FRDE**. You might’ve mentioned that the images on that site are NSFW (especially as I’m accessing the board from a public middle school–yes, it’s a boy’s middle school, but you know how administrators can be). [/QUOTE] Sorry about that, I was too busy laughing at the text to consider whether the pictures were a bit unsafe. My mistake. I remember the case vividly - it had the UK rolling with laughter. BTW: thanks for the Edit Sam ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/33 "2006-11-27T11:15:05Z")
[QUOTE=FRDE] Sorry about that, I was too busy laughing at the text to consider whether the pictures were a bit unsafe. My mistake. I remember the case vividly - it had the UK rolling with laughter. BTW: thanks for the Edit Sam [/QUOTE] It’s sad, isn’t it, that so many people think it’s funny for someone to be molested. ---
**Author:** ![Mathochist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Mathochist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathochist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/34 "2006-11-27T13:26:49Z")
[QUOTE=Pineapple Express] I’m pretty sure that a woman putting on a strap-on and sodomizing a man would constitute rape, as infrequently (I hope) as that would happen. [/QUOTE] Again (and I’m going to get attacked for this again): legally it depends on the jurisdiction. Some places yes, some places it’s “aggravated sexual assault” at worst. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/35 "2006-11-27T14:00:36Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] It’s sad, isn’t it, that so many people think it’s funny for someone to be molested. [/QUOTE] I think that this is a big part of why **Sonoran Lizard King** ’s look about found female-to-male rape to be “about statistically non-existant.” Personally, I can tell you that I never went to the police, and in twenty years, I’ve only told two or three of the “real life” people closest to me about what happened. My family? Forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Chotii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@Chotii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chotii)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813/36 "2006-11-27T17:16:48Z")
One thing I haven’t seen anybody mention is the use of a third party, or a ‘cock ring’, to force a half-hearted erection to stay firm enough to allow the woman to force herself onto the man, if he were otherwise restrained. Okay, I know this is getting ridiculous, and is so unlikely to happen as to be absurd, but “how could a woman rape a man”? by using his body against him. An erection need not be full and hard to “work”, it need only be “firm enough”. A man restrained could almost certainly be stimulated into a partial erection, and that blood held in place even when the distress of the situation would ordinarily have caused him to go completely flaccid. Since rape in such a case would be most likely to be about domination and humiliation (and not, infatuation or a desperate need for sex), the ‘not entirely hard’ factor could also be used as part of the humiliation, with cruel intent. I honestly don’t know any women who would enjoy inflicting this on a man. But there are what, 6 billion people in the world? Surely out there, there must be a few who would if they could. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-a-woman-rape-a-man/381813.md?page=1)