# How can Amazon mislead in their listings legally?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 5, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956 "2014-01-05T18:15:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/21 "2014-01-07T20:03:08Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> First, the tax thing is not Amazon’s fault. They fought the state/fed governments hard, and lost in many of them. I am now taxed as of Jan 1 or 2.

Other way around. Amazon [lobbied](http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021778597_amazonlobbyingxml.html) hard \*in favor of \*the imposition of sales taxes. Now that it’s a big company, the resources involved in complying with the dozens of sales-tax regimes in the US are relatively bearable, and this provides Amazon with a competitive advantage against smaller retailers who cannot comply nationwide with the same ease.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/22 "2014-01-07T20:14:37Z")

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I’m in the UK and even if I only buy a single item from Amazon UK, there are **no shipping costs** if I’m prepared to wait 3-5 days for delivery.  
This option is called ‘Super Saver Delivery’.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/23 "2014-01-07T20:25:12Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> Link? Screenshot?

I think it’s like “Compare to Similar Electric Waffle Irons” on [this page](http://www.amazon.com/Toastmaster-2-Section-Waffle-Maker-TMWB2REGW/dp/B002GYUI28/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_3).

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/24 "2014-01-07T22:23:22Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Other way around. Amazon [lobbied](http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021778597_amazonlobbyingxml.html) hard \*in favor of \*the imposition of sales taxes. Now that it’s a big company, the resources involved in complying with the dozens of sales-tax regimes in the US are relatively bearable, and this provides Amazon with a competitive advantage against smaller retailers who cannot comply nationwide with the same ease.

Honestly, I’ll have to do more reading to figure this out, but it’s not as simple as Amazon being a big fan of taxation, and wanting to tax from the beginning. They know they can’t beat the government, but that doesn’t mean that they are going to tax if they don’t have to. E.g. [[1]](http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/01/02/the-interesting-difference-in-amazons-attitude-to-eu-and-us-sales-taxes/) and [[2]](http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/04/amazon-loses-a-battle-but-still-fights-the-war-on-state-sales-tax/).

> [@glee](#):
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> I’m in the UK and even if I only buy a single item from Amazon UK, there are **no shipping costs** if I’m prepared to wait 3-5 days for delivery.  
> This option is called ‘Super Saver Delivery’.

The US has that too, which is what people are talking about above. It was $25 for years now $35. However, it looks like that’s not true in the UK, but you could be forgiven as it looks like the change is very recent: as of **today** , there is a £10 threshold for Super Saver. WAG: I’ll guess that the discrepancy ($16.40 vs. $35 or £10 vs. £21.34) is because the UK is much smaller.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/25 "2014-01-07T22:43:51Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I think it’s like “Compare to Similar Electric Waffle Irons” on [this page](http://www.amazon.com/Toastmaster-2-Section-Waffle-Maker-TMWB2REGW/dp/B002GYUI28/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_3).

I see the same “FREE SHIPPING on orders over $35” text.

Edit: Oh, I see what you mean, in the table below. There’s no asterisk or the “on orders over $35” text.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-amazon-mislead-in-their-listings-legally/677956/26 "2014-01-07T23:08:11Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> I see the same “FREE SHIPPING on orders over $35” text.
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> Edit: Oh, I see what you mean, in the table below. There’s no asterisk or the “on orders over $35” text.

That’s exactly it, yes. I’m no good w/ screenshots uploaded to hosting sites on any of my ancient computers now, my apologies. That whole table row that says Free Shipping is almost certainly inaccurate, I realize now. But even the asterisk would make it more accurate, as we consumers know an asterisk means ‘not really’.

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