Photo of the Lincoln Memorial shut down in 1995.
And let’s put on our thinking caps and think, think, think Mr. Bricker. Is there any other difference between 1995 and 2013. Let’s think, think, think… Do we have more security now at airports? Do we have more security at our borders? Do we worry more about these security things than we did in 1995? Hmmmmm. What, what, what do you think Mr. Bricker? Why YES, YES, YES, we do, we do, we do!
Care to walk that back?
It’s been suggested. It would violate the Constitution.
There are far worse things that are happening with the shutdown than the closing of the national parks; those are just the most visible things.
Just off the top of my head:
The NTSB has had to cancel all accident investigations. There was a plane crash in Santa Monica which they were looking into; this investigation is now stopped in its tracks.
A bunch of scheduled aircraft deliveries are not being made because the branch of the FAA that issues airworthiness certificates is shut down.
By now everyone knows that the CDC and NIH are shut down. That can’t be good for the health of the nation’s people.
This shut down is about much more than just the national parks!
Keep on fighting the good fight.
People will “remember” stuff from the 1995 shutdown that never happened. See Bricker’s post above. They are having this reinforced daily by “news” sites that are peddling complete fabricated BS.
So you have a long road in front of you - fighting ignorance that people really actually enjoy keeping.
Say Cowgirl, got anything to say about the pics posted of the LM barricaded in 1995?
Yes. I maintain the Vietnam Wall remained open, but in looking at those pictures, it’s now clear to me that standing at the Wall, I was too low to see the street, so while I didn’t see barricades at the Lincoln Memorial, that didn’t mean they were not there. I have a distinct memory of seeing the steps to the Lincoln Memorial clear and unbarricaded. Looking at that picture, I realize now that what I was seeing was the top, pure white marble area, not the actual street-level steps.
Good lesson for me. I was wrong in my conclusion.
I didn’t remember anything wrongly.
I reached a wrong conclusion based on my accurate memory. I made a point of saying I did not visit the Lincoln Memorial – just looked at it. Looking at these pictures makes me realize what I saw was not actually the street-level steps where the barricade was.
So no doubt I was wrong, but not because I confabulated a memory.
Do we?
If that’s true, can you explain how this happened?
In other words, if, as you say, we have stepped up our security posture post-911 at the Lincoln Memorial, it doesn’t make sense to me that this woman was able to splash her paint and leave without getting caught, or even caught on video.
Ah yes, the old chestnut that if we don’t have perfect enforcement and protection, we have nothing. Well cowgirl, I guess we should give up entirely and just let the vandals roam free on the range of the entire country. That’s the only other option.
95% is higher than 90% and lower than 100%.
Ok. Do you have a cite for any actual increase in security at monuments that was tied to 9/11 and is supportive of the theory alluded to above?
In other words, you seem perfectly happy to advance your unsourced assertion and wave away mine. That seems unfair to me.
Yes, those are accurate statements.
Now all you need to make them relevant is some actual fact to connect to the numbers. Because if that isn’t present, it seems I can respond that zero equals zero, another indisputable mathematical fact.
Stepped up security isn’t perfect security. Didn’t you ever sneak past a cop when you were younger?
I didn’t, but my delinquent brother slipped past guards all the time to tag walls.
Maybe what’s complicating things some is that there were two shutdowns in 1995, one in November, and another one in December? See the attached article, for instance:
Although, it looks like, even in the November shutdown, only some parks were closed:
Warning for being a jerk. Last chance, sinjin; if you act like a baby, I will give you a timeout.