# How can anyone vote for Trump in 2020? No. But Seriously **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506 "2020-08-19T18:09:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/201 "2020-08-21T18:36:46Z")
Didn’t he actually praise them for their handling of Hong Kong protests? ---
**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/202 "2020-08-21T19:14:22Z")
And as someone who just signed up to be a poll worker on election day, I’ll be the one having to deal with this crap… Luckily I’ve also worked security in the past so I know how to handle this threat. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/203 "2020-08-21T20:28:26Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That is not impressive when one realizes how until late 2019 that was not important at all to Trump. Considering that no other administration even gave this much of a shit, it’s still a standout. The fact that there is a low bar doesn’t detract from that, and for whatever reason or excuse he’s using, at least it’s getting done to some extent now. Like I said, there isn’t a lot I can put on his side, and this is one of the few things I can say I agree with, regardless of the why. YMMV of course. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/204 "2020-08-21T20:33:34Z")
> [@deRanger](#): > > Trump has allegedly mobilized his followers to “monitor” polling places on election day. All 60 million of them: there will be confrontations. Any time Trump tries to mobilize his followers, it’s a big nothing. I fear that scenario exactly zero. His using local police, somehow, to intimidate minorities like immigrants is, however, something to look out for. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/205 "2020-08-21T21:22:26Z")
“The idea that I would wish for diminished rights of my fellow citizen so I could make a buck is repugnant.” Yet that’s all you’ve talked about. How much YOU “might” have to pay. You haven’t said one God damn thing about your fellow citizens’ or your fellow humans’ and their rights as humans to live humanely other than YOU “might” have to pay some tax and how it comes before anything else in anyone else’s lives. I’d have more respect if you’d just say you love Trump and nobody gonna change your mind. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/206 "2020-08-21T23:02:20Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Like I said, there isn’t a lot I can put on his side, and this is one of the few things I can say I agree with, regardless of the why. YMMV of course. And as [k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender) noted, the millage one can get from this low energy vehicle from Trump is in the single miles per gallon when one takes context into account. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/207 "2020-08-21T23:12:30Z")
> **[Leaked Documents: FBI Ranks 'Black Identity Extremists' Top US Threat](https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-leak-black-identity-extremist-threat-1453362)** > > White supremacist groups are mentioned in the files, however they are described as a "medium threat." ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/208 "2020-08-21T23:32:42Z")
Well, thanks for confirming that the FBI is continuing with that malarkey of a definition to pump up charges against Black people opposing to the current administration. Others have noticed how that is used to confuse others into minimizing what white supremacists are actually doing. > **[Leaked Documents Contain Major Revelations About the FBI’s Terrorism...](https://www.justsecurity.org/66124/leaked-documents-contain-major-revelations-about-the-fbis-terrorism-classifications/)** > > Revelations about the FBI’s classification system for domestic terrorism investigations raise questions about its treatment of the white supremacist threat. > The implications here are twofold. First, the FBI should be able to provide the senators, not to mention the general public, with specific data on federal domestic terrorism investigations involving white supremacist violence. Second, although the FBI has abandoned its use of the term “Black Identity Extremism” to describe a purported domestic terror threat that many have criticized as a false predicate for targeting black racial justice activists, the underlying premise of that category continues to inform the FBI’s counterterrorism operations. > > According to the leaked documents, motivations for “Black Racially Motivated Violent Extremists” include the desire to establish “autonomous black social institutions, communities, or governing organizations within the United States,” or even create “physical or psychological separation.” Based on this language, rather than disavowing the [underlying framework](https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/06/the-fbi-has-identified-a-new-domestic-terrorist-threat-and-its-black-identity-extremists/) that so many found objectionable about the “Black Identity Extremism” designation, the FBI seems to have broadened its scope under the new classification. > > Both revelations cast a shadow over Wray’s testimony during the July 23 hearing, where he [told members of the committee](https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-abandons-use-of-terms-black-identity-extremism-11563921355) that the elimination of terms like “White Supremacist Extremism” and “Black Identity Extremism” was part of a reorganization of the FBI’s domestic terrorism threat categorizations. “That terminology went away as part of this racially motivated violent extremism category,” he said, referring to “Black Identity Extremism.” As the leaked documents seem to suggest, however, the FBI continues to track its domestic terrorism investigations as it has in the past, only now with even less transparency. > > We do not need to speculate about the FBI’s intentions behind the reclassification to understand its effect. Publicity and confusion surrounding the “Racially Motivated Violent Extremism” category have obscured the FBI’s efforts not only to counteract the threat of white supremacist violence, but also to further entrench the framework that underpinned the “Black Identity Extremist” designation. > > Assuming the leaked documents indeed reflect the FBI’s current approach to classifying domestic terrorism investigations, the Bureau’s investigative records will shine a light on both efforts. Members of Congress should continue their dogged oversight of the federal response to white supremacist violence and demand transparency from the relevant agencies, including the FBI. But the records alone will not suffice. These latest revelations demand an explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/209 "2020-08-22T01:52:25Z")
Drover thru W Mich recently - saw a LOT of Trump signs and flags. None for Biden. Was with my son as he acquired 5 long guns to add to his collection. Don’t know why anyone thinks it will be difficult to amass sufficient firepower. The kid is freakishly liberal on every issue - just likes old guns. (That Enfield has a HELL of a kick!) Hates most ranges for what he calls all the 2d amendment nuts. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/210 "2020-08-22T02:11:07Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Drover thru W Mich recently - saw a LOT of Trump signs and flags. I’m just curious, did this area of western Michigan also feature a lot of white people and boats and lakes? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/211 "2020-08-22T02:19:28Z")
ITT: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yJD1Iwy5lUY/maxresdefault.jpg "If Google Was A Guy (Part 3)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJD1Iwy5lUY) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/212 "2020-08-22T02:29:32Z")
Yeah. Not sure what you are getting at. Lots of water and watersports in the area. NE of Muskegon, down 31 thru N Ind, if that clears anything up. Evidently more tattoo shops than dentists… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/213 "2020-08-22T03:21:00Z")
Well, we know that Trump loves [watersports](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water%20sports). ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/214 "2020-08-22T04:47:37Z")
The FBI won’t be intimidated by the “woke” “social justice” crowd who thinks skin color exempts them from accountability . ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/215 "2020-08-22T05:20:45Z")
Piffle, like if the item you rely on and the one I posted are not based on leaks. They show that in reality the FBI has been trying to hide what it is doing, as a way to avoid accountability. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/216 "2020-08-22T12:19:20Z")
Boats are expensive. I asked because you said you sae a “LOT” of Trump signs and flags there. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/217 "2020-08-22T12:35:33Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Well, we know that Trump loves [watersports](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water%20sports). It’s a golden shower of hits! ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/218 "2020-08-22T21:57:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Boats are expensive. … Naw, man. You’re thinking of an entirely different demographic. You’ll see the occasional ski or bass boat, but far more pontoons, canoes, johnboats w/ trolling motors… My wife has been going up there her whole life: I, for 35 yrs. A huge chunk of folk are blue color - or unemployed. Many households living off a single Social Security/disability/etc check, supplementing their diet w/ fish and poached deer. They seem to LOVE their Trump! ---
**Author:** ![mrmaxum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmaxum/32/4140_2.png) [@mrmaxum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrmaxum)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/219 "2020-08-22T23:48:08Z")
Love Leapers comments and he RIGHT , now look at this crap we have in the NZ Parliament its all garbage . No oli exploration . plastic in the oceans with ever considering that some countries DUMP trash in the ocean and if we put it in the tips over here then how is it getting into the ocean, ban plastic one use bags , yea great now I have to buy them ! This government is only promoting feel good social mind games it is not fixing the problem with phoney band aids ! ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/220 "2020-08-23T00:26:35Z")
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